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to think when I hear Cameron saying he loves the NHS..................

39 replies

ssd · 08/02/2012 22:57

he's had BUPA all his life, his family has BUPA, his friends probably all have it too

how patronising is this man

dh said, didnt his wife have the baby in an nhs hospital?, makes no difference, thats the last time she probably went near the NHS

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ssd · 10/02/2012 09:21

thats so depressing edam

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 10/02/2012 09:39

YABU... The NHS is not the shining example of healthcare it should be. The billions shovelled into it by the last administration didn't stop horror stories like elderly people starving and neglected on wards. Other countries in Europe have better outcomes for similar spend - they don't pay for their treatment but they organise it better and make better use of private companies. I know it's fashionable to take a pop at the PM but wasn't his little boy that died treated on the NHS?

WilsonFrickett · 10/02/2012 09:44

Yes he was Cogito.
Hasn't stopped DC cutting care packages right left and centre.
Hasn't stopped him attacking DLA and initiating a media campaign to demonise the disabled as scroungers and benefit cheats.
Hasn't stopped that fact that hard won services for the disabled seem to be trickling away due to 'hard decisions having to be made'.
Won't stop the fact that he is obsessed with remaking the NHS to his image. Now, I do agree that the NHS should be reformed actually. But this is not the way to do it.

NeldaAufwader · 10/02/2012 09:57

The utility companies and rail networks were privatised under the fucking Tories and look how that turned out.
Yes changes are needed within the NHS but bloody hell how people take for granted what we have. Patient care/waiting times etc. had never been so good. I work in the NHS so do see it first hand. All you Cameron bumlickers just wait, when you might need it, it won't be there, it'll be too late then.

sue52 · 10/02/2012 09:58

If it doesn't turn a profit, he wants to destroy it the same with education. Typical Tory thinking.

KnickerlessCackleby · 10/02/2012 09:58

I work for the NHS, I won't be too specific, but in my sector, they are dismissing and re-engaging staff who fail to fit into new shift patterns introduced. This is to avoid paying big redundancy packages on a large scale to staff who work all hours of the day and night 365 days a years. If you have worked in NHS for 10 years, they will just dismiss and re-engage and just like that, 10 years of service is wiped from the slate.
We are looking at the legalities of this, aside from the ethics, it does not seem lawful. If it were proven to be unlawful by the unions (fucking useless), I have no doubt it would become lawful. Andrew Lansley and co would do a hatchet job and change the laws, so they could do what they wanted with us.

David Cameron does not love love NHS, or if he does, well he certainly hates us bloshie, lefty, NHS workers.

I love the NHS, so I do hope I haven't brought the service into disrepute, because that would be another good reason to get rid of another NHS worker.

Good grief, I feel so sick about all of this, awful, awful awful. Yes, Labour did rob the till and did us great harm, but you know, the Tories have no heart whatsoever.

BadDayAtTheOrifice · 10/02/2012 10:09

Knickerless, could you explain what 'dismiss and re-engage' means please, not sure I understand.

CelticPromise · 10/02/2012 10:11

He is a liar. But Tories are for themselves as always. And if he succeeds we will never get the NHS back.

As for private care, try turning up at a private 'urgent care centre' with a serious trauma, you'll be packed off to good old A&E. Private companies can pick and choose profitable work areas. And those that contract with the NHS for say elective surgery, the NHS ends up looking after those that have complications in any case. They don't do the tough stuff and it removes their risk.

ssd · 10/02/2012 11:09

nelda. the Cameron bumlickers won't need the NHS, they will have BUPA, thats why they can be so dismissive of the NHS

Cog, make my day, tell me you use the NHS all the time and don't have private health care and private dentistry Grin

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Whatmeworry · 10/02/2012 11:11

to think when I hear Cameron saying he loves the NHS

He's only saying that to make it go all gooey inside....he just wants to fuck it.

KnickerlessCackleby · 10/02/2012 11:14

*Baddayattheoriffice" they end the contract becuase you can't do the hours they have "offered" or there are no hours to offer. They they get you to sign a new contract Confused

NeldaAufwader · 10/02/2012 11:16

BUPA et al. are crap when things go wrong, i.e a bog standard heart bypass/appendicectomy/knee replacement doesn't go to plan - get them to an NHS ITU ASAP!
My favourite anecdotal story was the chap who'd had a penis extension done by a Harley Street cons, ended up being treated on the local NHS urology ward for weeks with a green festering knob not actual medical diagnosis Oh the NHS is good enough when it suits.
Hate them, hate them, hate them.

Whatmeworry · 10/02/2012 11:18

a green festering knob

Have you read the tattoo thread? :o

NeldaAufwader · 10/02/2012 11:21

I haven't, will take a look.
I got a strange sense of pride dressing that thing daily watching it improve must have been teeny weeny though as even extended it looked average to me. The price of vanity. Grin

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