.. for thinking that some MNers should stare at their navels for a bit

[DontDoSupportiveGF]

I've been going through the threads from the past few days, to get a feel for what people are posting, and I've noticed some posters who would benefit from a spot of navel staring which hopefully will bring them enlightenment and self awareness.

One mum was going on about how she didn't belive in technology and that DC should be doing things other than playing on the PC. Yet she spends several hours on the PC defending her views on why people shouldn't spent several hours on the PC

Another mum was going on about how she didn't like DC playing violent games, either on the PC or with toy guns. She would rather DC do sporty stuff like martial arts. Excuse me but isn't that where people put on white jim-jams and then proceed to kick the shit out of each other while chanting 'Karate is for self defence only Daniel-San'?

Oh well, it keeps me amused while I wait for the delivery man to come.

Good point, SparklingBrook - maybe DS has more sense than I've been giving him credit for!

my children do it because they want to be able to split bricks and scare bullies.

In all seriousness though, karate clubs that advocate the learing of it for self defence really shouldn't be teaching it.

I'm even more confused than ever now Where. Because there's Tae Kwon Do, and Ju Jitsu as well. Are they different?

Repeat the navel bit until the feeling of enlightetment envelopes you.

I don't have to repeat anything. I 'm smart enough to know that said mum might post from work on a boring day, might have several windows open on her pc, might be ill in bed, might be bfeeding, might be on a wheelchair. I don't know anything about her life.

At University I did Kendo. Can you imagine the party conversation? I like whacking people with a bamboo stick Its a Japanese martial art

Its funny how something that can get you labelled as a nutter becomes socially acceptable if you chuck in some fortune cookie Zen/Yoda stuff.

I personally don't see the difference between kids playing with toy guns and kids learning martial arts. Kids don't become violent because they do martial arts so why do parents think that they will if they play with toy guns? Guns glamourise violence you say? Well one could never accuse Bruce Lee, Jet Lee, Steven Seagal and Ninja Turtles of glamourising violence eh? :o

To parents who do see a difference I suggest a session of intense navel staring.

PS AIBU for thinking that the censors were a bunch of twats for insisting that the Ninja Turtles be renamed Hero Turtles coz the word 'Ninja' wasn't an acceptable word for a children's cartoon?

There's also Tang Soo Do too.

There's Fencing too. They have to wear a face mask for that.

My Dd does shao lin, she definitely doesn't want to beat anyone up, she's a pacifist :) HTH

DontDo If you don't see a difference between Martial Arts and toy guns, you are incredibly stupid/misinformed.

So can someone explain the difference between all the different martial arts to me? Not heard of shao lin.

Its funny how something that can get you labelled as a nutter becomes socially acceptable if you chuck in some fortune cookie Zen/Yoda stuff.

plus

DontDo If you don't see a difference between Martial Arts and toy guns, you are incredibly stupid/misinformed.

....means the market is crying out for The Tao Of Nerf Guns

She has a gun too although she doesn't like it much as she'd asked for a pink one and they don't seem to sell pink guns much.

I have no idea the difference sparkling, although imo the real self defence one is win Chung (I think that's how its spelt) as that was invented by a woman with the aim to defend oneself against big strong men.

I love looking at my navel...it has a very pretty jewel in it at the moment :)

My DS does Wing Chun Kung Fu...it is non contact - they kick pads, duck under sticks etc etc and it is brilliant....he is avidly waiting till they bring the long swords out but hopefully that is a few years away. He has been doing it for 4 years now (he is 9) and watching him, well, I think he is brilliant

He has had to sign a declaration saying he won't use his skills (I use that term loosely, lol) outside the studio....however, it does do wonders for their confidence and I am quietly confident that if need be he could defend himself !

...oh but the real reason I wanted him to do Kung Fu is the discipline it teaches them as well - that too has been fab :)

Why do I get a feeling that if I were to serve some of the posters here a slimey snail on a fancy plate, give it a french name and charge you £15 you would go yum yum, can I have some more?

I was taught Kendo by a Japanese University economics lecturer who was also a black belt in Karate. He said that a lot of Japanese children did karate for the same reason that British kids did football or swimming but back home Karate is taught minus "the fortune cookie stuff". That was for the benefit of the Gaijin i.e. us.

If some boxer were to go on about how boxing was some spiritual thing for him some of the posters here would probably risk damaging their sight as they rushed to roll their eyes. Stick that person in a Gi and everybody will go 'Wow. That was sooo deep'. :o

I can see that there are more posters in need of Remedial Navel Staring 101 then I originally thought.

God you are a twat.

Sparklingbrook

Karate is Japanese. It was developed as a sport about 100 years ago. After WWII it became popular with American GIs coming back from the Pacific war.

Taekwondo was introduced in the 1950s in Korea, again as a sport.

Kung fu is Chinese. There are various styles, each of which has a certain look and philosophy. Wing Chun, for example is more real world orientated ie no fancy jumping kicks that will most likely end up with you flat on your arse. Shoalin is a style praticed by the Shoalin monks.

Most of the above are sports. People who want a more self-defence orientated 'sport' tend to go for kick boxing where hard physical contact is encouraged and therefore not suitable for kids.

Yon - If your opinion was something that I valued then that would have hurt. As it is .... :o

I'd love to stare at my navel...my breasts are in the way though, I'm not sure I even remember what it looks like :(

... oops.. and the difference is that Taekwondo concentrates on high kicks. Spinning ones, axe ones, round house ones. In competitions hand strikes garner few points because it is not seen as a fight stopper.

Wing Chun focuses on up close combination techniques. Block and punch as opposed to block and then punch used in Karate. If you've seen the Downey Junior Sherlock Holmes movies then that is the style being demonstated. Kicks don't go above knee coz high kicks to the head makes you unstable. Breaking your kneecap works just as well as a fancy/flashy jumping kick.

If you want a real bad ass martial art then go for Jui Jitsu. Block, trap arm, break arm, throw opponent to floor and then stamp on him. 'Combinations. Also use combinations and not single lines of attack' my master use to scream at us. All of this was done for the promotion of inner harmony and peace :o

I miss my University days [looks wistfully out of the window]

Anyone wondering why belly button fluff is nearly always blue...

.... It travels UP not DOWN so nearly always comes from your jeans. How weird is that? And even weirder that scientists researched this

There is so much wrong with your perception (and knowledge) of karate I don't know where to start...

There is so much wrong with your perception (and knowledge) of karate I don't know where to start.

Everybody knows where to start! With the cars of course.

Wax On, Wax Off

Some very naive views of karate on here. Is not about attacking, it is learning control and defence. Only if you have been taught badly do you think of it as an aggressive activity!

Whatmeworry. Mind you, with this being Mumsnet, Wax On, Wax Off could have a whole other meaning...

And yy, coraltoes. Totally agree.