To still be fucking fuming over these kids?

[thefroggy]

Short version. A family moved in the street attached to ours (new build) about two years ago. Since then the brothers (about five of them) have made our life a fucking misery. One of the middle sons was so bloody awful to my son he didn't go out to play ever again with friends he'd grown up with. Two years ago. One of the younger sons I saw threatening to punch my daughter in the face when she was playing on her own garden, last summer.

They often stand in the road playing chicken. They dont move, they give us abuse.

If I go to the shop (walking with my kids, they swear at us, spit at us etc)

My mum has been driving for over thirty years. Today we came back from the weekly shop. We rounded the corner, these kids stood in the road as normal. Except today we had snow, lots of. One in particular, He ran in front of us, grabbed a snowball and pelted it at the windscreen. My mum swerved to avoid him, the car skidded, we ended up on the pavement, nearly hit another car, any further we would have been down a bank and through someone's front window. Then the car got stuck. My mum was almost crying.

I called him a stupid boy, he pissed himself laughing and told me to fuck off. He's probably younger than my dd (8).

I reported them to the police, our road is very dangerous without snow/ice. But what good will it do? Nothing. These kids dont care.

Like the police dont have enough to do, but in fairness, they did send community officers down.

I've had enough of this family, I really have.

I really feel for you, we have had lots of probs with local teenagers targeting our house on a nightly basis to the point I would sit there and wait for it then phone the police and wait an hour for them to turn up. It was only when they threw stuff at me while I was holding my 6w DS that it got taken seriously and PCO's now patrol here but am still too scared to go to the shops in the evening on my own at the end of the road. Log each incident and phone police each time so they can build a file on the family, if they are in CO-Op housing the CO-OP will make them move etc. I really hope it gets sorted as it is awful feeling so scared in your own neighbourhood

Christ, that sounds horrendous. I wish I could give you soem advice, but I don't know what you can do. Hopefully someone will be along soon with some ideas.

Oh i'm not scared of them, they have pushed me to my limit now. I can only take so much. My mum and kids could really have been hurt today.

It sounds awful, your poor mum. It's made me angry just reading it.
Have you tried the parents?

Also, if they are HA or council there may be someone there you can talk to about antisocial behaviour, start keeping a record of events.

Good luck.

get a book and write every thing down call the cops maybe they will get asbo

What do the parents say when you go round?

If you are afraid of the parents, perhaps ask the police to go round and tell them to control their kids!

I'm so sorry to hear it froggy, they sound like an absolute and utter nightmare. It's completely unaccceptable to feel like this in your own street and home :(

Are they renting or do they own? Have you had any contact with the parents?

Also, you are probably not the only family affected by them, perhaps there are neighbours you could talk to. The LA might already be aware of them.

I dont know the parents but over a year ago, one of my neighbours who does, confronted the mum and apparently she laughed and said "aw, boys will be boys". Twat.

I may have had too much wine, but don't put your own kids & Ma in danger when THEY are standing in the road! (but avoid the temptation to mow the little sods down, obviously).

You cant help it though iama, you see a child in the road and as twatty as they are being, your first instinct is to not hit them, so you swerve. Noone wants to hit anyone, let alone a child.

So why don't you go and speak to the parents??

Because tiffany, one of us did, and she said "aw, boys will be boys".

Do you have any neighbours who have been hassled by the family? If so, then can you all get together and each put in a complaint to the police about them. I also second keeping a record of any and every incident no matter how small. Suggest the same to your neighbours so there is even more complaints about the family. Eventually the police will have to deal with this problem, and if they're renting, can you find out who they are renting with (be that Housing Association or council) and ask for an incident book to fill in about the family.

My friend had problems with one of her neighbours. The neighbour has lived in 3 different parts of the same estate and has been told on numerous occasions, by the Housing Executive, to control her son and stop intimidating people in the area. Their current address is a few doors from my friend and in the last 5 months, my friend has filled in 3 separate 40 page incident books about the neighbour and her family. The incidents range from drunken foul-mouthed tirades from the mother to smashing eggs over my friend's door and window and opened sachets of tomato & brown sauce/cat food pushed through her letterbox. A few of the other neighbours have been on the receiving end of that family's foul behaviour and so far there have been at least 14 incident books about them. I don't know any more than that, but it probably won't be long before all the toutured neighbours are handing in their books.

I hope you can rally some support on this OP.

2 years ago one threatened your child

Now another is causing accidents

And you say someone once confronted the mother and that was that times response??? Come on, you need to grow a pair and go over every time! How else will they realise her children are running wild? I doubt they are being told by the boys themselves....

avenged where has op said it's housing association property?

I do avenged, but I doubt they would put in a complaint. We've all been hassled by them but most neighbours wouldn't want to get involved.

Not read all posts as BF so not sure if suggested but when I had trouble with my neighbours it was the council I went to , for noise and then antisocial behaviour. They dealt with it really well for me . I also logged everything with the police and spoke to neighbours for support .

They do live in HA property, I live in LA property. It may be relevant when it comes to complaints.

How shit. We had similar here. I rang the police each and every time. I got to know the community Officer who became very involved. Eventually the police realised I, and others, weren't going to stop ringing them and started calling to the house on every occasion (every night). They are still here, but much quieter, they just stare at us, but no more throwing/swearing/blocking road.

Just take a zero tolerance approach, it is up to the police to stop anti-social behaviour. I wouldn't bother going to to the parents, if they've brought up their kids to be like that, they won't give a toss what you say.

It sounds awful. It is unacceptable and I am glad you called the police. Keep a log of these incidents.

Where are mum and dad when all this is going on?

i'm a complete cow (you may have noticed) ...... I find if you look slightly demonic behind the wheel, shift your clutch foot to the brake and shove the gas peddle down it makes a hell of a noise like revving (but you don't actually pick up speed) - the little fuckers scatter like no tomorrow.

disclaimer: this post was brought to you by someone who has desires to be somewhat psychotic at rather random moments.

StrandedBear Your Nan was evicted after calling the police twice ? Fuck me. That sounds like a nasty situation. I would have gone nuts at that HA.

Froggy I used to have a very tedious guffbag of a job for a HA - you need to log every incident, keep a diary of dates and times if neccessary and make an absolute fucking nusciance of yourselves with their Housing Officer (you can usually find out which officer it is if you call their offices) - they are obliged to act on your reports and put them on file with the tenants. In the first instance they will send out a letter remindingthem of the terms and conditions of their contract, then pay them a visit, then - if the trouble continues they sometimes prepare a 'Good Behaviour' contract which the tenants have to adhere to in order to kee their tenancy.

In the first instance though I would reccommend trying to make contact with the parents as it may be solvable without approaching their HA and saving yourself a lot of hassle.