To ask if you've ever had Botox..and whether I should get some injected into my wrinkly old mug?

[Proudnscary]

I'm nearly 42 and, while stunningly beautiful and nigh on perfect, have a few deep lines in my forehead from scowling at unreasonable people for the last 30 years.

A very rude friend of mine (gay man, image conscious and horribly honest) keeps urging me to have a few jabs of poison in my face as 'your forehead is letting you down'.

The problem is that people that have had it look like...well like they've had Botox. Smoother skinned but a bit odd and surgeried.

Any of you had it? Would I have to have it forever more?

I'm leaning on the side of 'no way', because I'm vain but not that vain and I'm afraid of damaging nerves etc.

Whaddya reckon?

EmmaBemma, I was exactly the same as PutAnotherShrimpOnTheBarbie in that I had a really deep line down the centre of my forehead which it eradicated.

Got rid of the line and didn't look surprised!

Al0uisee - . You look soooo much better in your after pics!

Northern - yes and you should see me today after being at a friend's 40th til 3.30am. When you're young, you look pale and interesting after a big night out. I look red eyed, grey, haggard and I'm sure my wrinkles have popped to the fore in punishment for drinking several bottles glasses of Champagne.

Weirdly, I feel more inclined to have Botox now after reading all these posts. I thought, it being Mumsnet and full of tres intelligent/intellectual women, I'd get 100% 'no, how vacuous of you even to ask the question'.

It is amazing on 'the day after' face. Whether alcohol or just a bad nights sleep!

My dp's uncle has his own cosmetics company and he does Botox. He's a GP too so ensures his clients are in safe hands. I've seen a few of his clients he has treated and they look great, I wouldn't have known it wasn't natural if I wasn't told though, no waxy or frozen faces at all

not sure if you were referring to my post or someone elses but I didn't make up any health scares, was just referring to an article I read about botox potentially being unsafe, like I said think it was an old article in the Times.

I'd be very wary after the recent breast implants fiasco, people though implants perfectly safe as well. Am a naturally cautious person however. But it's fair to say people weren't injecting botox into their faces in any significant numbers 20/30 years ago so IMVHO the long term effects have not been fully tested on a large scale. It's fair to say botox carries risks and potential side effects and you'll have to sign a disclaimer for these.

Also, I was just saying I've seen some frozen faces and it's not a good look

Does it make a difference if you have a fat face or not? I have quite a lot of fat under my skin but huge wrinkles. Hoping they will go if I loose weight but since I have always had an expressive face I have seriously deep wrinkles.

Before I lose or after for best effect?

Do you know the other thing? My dh would go spare if I had Botox. He thinks it's stupid and wrong and poss dangerous etc.

Disclaimer: I'm a feminist, the main breadwinner, we have a equal relationship, we both do what we want and I am not scared of him!

My dh loves me having it for the perceived mood enhancing qualities.

Proud: I doubt he'd notice. A lot of my clients don't tell their partners.

Proud I woudlnt tell my H either

His disdain would make me annoyed

What's Duac?

Duac is an acne treatment

It's also rumoured to give you wrinkles!

It's also got an antibiotic (clindamycin) in it so it wouldn't be my first choice as an alternative to Botox.

Injecting a deadly toxin into your face is so stupid I actually have trouble believing people do it.

I have wrinkles, fair skin, mid thirties, australian sun, it happens.

But poison into your actual face?!

I have a friend in her early 60's who has been having botox shots for the best part of 10 years and has become increasingly obsessed with it for the past 2 years. Her face is almost static and in actual fact she appears to have had a charisma bypass as she finds it hard to laugh or even smile - she looks eternally enigmatic

Its very sad actually because she had a very expressive face and was always the life and soul of any party until she became unable to cope with aging naturally :(

Mmm its a thin line, ive had it done noone noticed till I told em, bloody expensive tho. But probs would have it done again..not a problem, and I too took great delight in trying to frown and look surprised at mates..

'thin line' ffs lol if only

I really need it for the frown lines. Looking back at photos, I have had them since I wad about 10!

How much is Botox and how often do you need it done?

Do you mean retinol the secondcoming?

I still maintain-happiness, fruit, sleep and shagging (although not neccessarily in that order.)
When I was crawling out of the worst relationship evah I looked about ten years older than I was.
2 years later, and most people thought I was 10 years younger than I was, cos I was happy, going running, not smoking and shagging men who were too young for me.