To think this scumbag "mother" should have her child taken from her?

[HungryHelga]

Woman licks methadone from the pavement in Scotland as her child looks on.

This disgusts me. How can anyone have so little self-respect to do this, and with her child there as well?

The Daily Record can only be relied on to

• show their Rangers blue noses
• arse lick Paulo fuckin Nutini and Susan fuckin Boyle on alternative weeks

Not report any actual news

redlc that's not fair they sometimes have stuff glorifying Glasgow gangsters and sometimes there are some tits too.

if it keeps her off heroin surely licking it off the street can only be a good thing?

Ok Im going to come across as a heartless bitch but I have very little compassion for whilst they are taking drugs. And if they have children then the children should not be in their care for the main reason that I have not met a single junkie that will prioritise food for their children above their next hit. Its an addiction, a shit addiction and thats one of the consequences of it. Also when they are off their face on whatever drug they have taken then they are not in a proper state to look after their kids. As for the cost of children in care, what are the costs of helping these children when they have been dragged up through childhood and have dysfunctional adulthood? Anf imo child care costs are a small price to pay if it spares a child of living in with a unfit parent. If a person chooses to take drugs that is their choice, but one that afaic, a lifestyle that should not be imposed on an innocent child.

If she had of been licking heroin off the pavement then I could see your point OP. Fact is she is trying to better herself by taking methadone, Unless you have any better solutions for addiction?

"Scumbags" do not try to better themselves.

"Scumbags" do try and better themselves - I work with pregnant women/women who have just given birth who are on methadone/coming off heroin. A lot of them/most of them are making a lot of effort.

The problem in this instance is that the chemist wouldn't have given her anymore methadone if she'd gone back and told them that she'd dropped it. If she hadn't tried to get what she could off the pavement she'd have had horrific come down/side effects.

After a hospital stay I came out with a morphine addiction and believe me the side effects when I stopped taking it were like nothing on earth. So yes while they've got themselves in this position through some of their own choice I do have sympathy. Plus that background tales of a lot of these women are terrible - domestic abuse, junkie boyfriends getting them hooked, abusive parents, etc.

Sorry PointyShoes - I thought you were calling her a scumbag. I see you weren't now. Sorry.

The Daily Record is Scotland's National Shame. The day I catch myself reading it is the day I voluntarily take myself off to St Kilda to live with the puffins.

I'd reserve the term "scumbag" for the public-spirited photograph taker. What a marvellous citizen.

Runnygrobbles - i happened to be on my mobile phone and skimmed. Perhaps i could hire you as my PA to catch any other completely unimportant mistake I make: you obviously have plenty of time to pick at minor indiscretions.

"The Daily Record can only be relied on to

• show their Rangers blue noses
• arse lick Paulo fuckin Nutini and Susan fuckin Boyle on alternative weeks"

Nice bit of casual sectarianism though... -

(No problem Viva:) )

I think many people forget that addiction starts when many of these people are very young, Shockingly young in some cases because of peer pressure, No confidence, Untreated SNs, Gang culture and for some kids it's just the normal thing to do as no one showed them any different.

It can only take one hit of heroin to become addicted for a life time. I think people trying to get better should be commended and encourage as much as possible.

Sorry norman is that sectarian comment directed to me?

I don't know how true the picture in the DR is, or even if the child was hers.
But, I have to agree with Hilly, no child should be brought up by a junkie.
And I am a former junkie, I got the methadone too, but that was used as a substitute till I could get my next fix.
There is no way that I could be a parent during that time, the drug came first, and with heroin addiction, it always will. I couldn't even have been responsible for a plant much less a child. I stopped over twenty years ago and I have a ds who's now 16 and I've brought him up to be an amazing kid.
You can never trust a junkie, the drug is too powerful, no child should be brought up that way.

Gosh, that poor woman. If she is on a substitute she is trying to kick her habit. Where is the bloody compassion in this world???

She needs help, not judgement.

The problems of society get people there.

Once they're there society turns its back.

that poor woman :(
I know our chemist dishes out the stuff, but they all have to take it on sight so they cant go home and sell it! Always know what it is, its green and chemist always goes into side room :(

You could take a moment to think about the nature of addiction and how it must feel to be in the thrall of something so completely that the state of the pavement would never even register in your mind.

Or you could just be a cunt about it.

I cant be arsed reading more than the first page of comments on that story:

"Why does the tax payer pay for this failed program? She will be picking up her smack to make sure she gets her hit? Oh thats right we are probably paying for her house and giving her 50 quid per week to live off also. What would the dreaded SMP do about this? Flat screen TVs for all the smack heads."
Could this BE any more wrong? (comment i pasted from DR website above I mean) you could practically play MN bingo with that one.

I can only assume it got worse and god know what the comment that was actually removed said!

Asking if the daily record has a track record of sensationalism is like asking if the pope is catholic.

LadyBeagleEyes I admire you,for your strength and your honesty.

OP How do you know that girl is her DD? There is no mention in the story that it is her DD stood there.

She needs help not bloody ridicule across the internet.

The Daily Ranger is the national shame of Scotland

I judge people who buy the DR, they will accept a story from anyone, even convicted criminals currently serving a prison sentence. They don't care. It makes the Fail look like proper journalism.

Having met a heroin addict over the course of a few weeks and discovered the circumstances that got her there - I could never judge. She was trying to get clean so she could have a baby. She struck me as so functional but she was still using . I'll never understand what it feels like to be a drug addict, and I'm grateful for that.

Where is the outrage against the fucker who took that picture? Outside of this thread I mean

LadyBeagleEyes the most emotive and touching post I have ever seen on MN. Thank you for your honesty.

Whatever the truth behind the picture/story in the Daily record, a popular newspaper in Central Scotland, the general public are naive in the extreme to think that this is an exception. Drug, and alcohol - no less terrifying, dependent parents are in charge of their children without support or interference from any government agency or service,

I also recall the photograph of the unconscious father in a Glasgow back alley who had scored his hit while in charge of a toddler and baby...you tell me, who is most deserving of help in those circumstances?

I would struggle to believe most of what is reported in the papers generally.

Recently I have been involved in two incidents which were reported in a well-respected paper and they managed to get most of the facts totally wrong. In these cases no-one was hurt by their inaccuracies but it has made me regard the media in a different light.
'Never let the facts get in the way of a good story'
If someone is on methadone I hope that they are making an effort to get clean but it is not always the case. What is the case is that it is always a tragic waste of life and potential.