to expect a 6 and 4 year old to sleep past 5.30am?

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They are in bed by 7.30 and usally asleep by 8.30. My sister seems to think nothing of it (her DCs are the early risers) whilst I think it is abnormally early.

We need a wider research field please.

Dpends. Some will need 9 hours, some as much as 13.

ds1 is 6 and now will sleep til 7, ds2 is 4 and still wakes at between 5.30 and 6, as this is when ds1 used to get up, I am hoping he will grow out of it!! They have to be up at 6.30am 4 days a week when I work, so Ive always thought that is the reason mine are earlier risers, it is a pin tho!!

Mine are generally up by 5:30am. They are 5yo and 2yo.

Some children are just early risers. I would say you just need to learn to live with it.

i would say the children need to learn to live with me i refuse to get out of bed before 7:45 on a school day and later on a non school day.

YANBU - gag them and tie them to the bed until they learn that there is no such time as 5.30am.

Seriously both DSS got up at 6am until they hit around 9 or 10. The eldest is now 15 and happily rots in his pit until midday and beyond or until I demand he gets up because I want to stay in bed and can't

I won't tolerate 5.30am wake ups. They are old enough to play quietly in their rooms.

YANBU. If one of mine (5&6) woke up at 5.30 then I'd tell them it was still nighttime and send them back to bed.

I would send back to bed too. My three sons have got later and later as they have got older but even as little ones stayed in bed until seven which I think is reasonable. Especially as I imagine you do not go to bed at seven with them!

When DD was 4 I considered 5.30am a result. Tuesday this week gone she slept till 8.30am for the first time ever at 8 - hoorah a lie in may yet happen.

It's too early for me and woud result in serious misery. I make DD stay in her bed until an acceptable hour. I will get up from 6:30am but 7 is great and 8 is wonderful

6 is our get up. DS1 knows not to start asking for breakfast before six zero zero. They sometimes get in our bed before that but know it's to do more sleeping/lying quietly until six zero zero.

There is no way I'd be happy with that!!
Play quietly in rooms or educate them about reasonable wake up times, or put them to bed later.

Yabu I'm afraid. Both of mine regularly (3 or more mornings a week) get up before 6am, known jokingly in our house as stupid o'clock. They are 5.5 and. 7. I have tried many things in desperation over the years, stopping just short of putting something in their bedtime milk or gagging them and tying them to the bed. Nothing works, just have to live with it and look forward to teenage years.
I have tried sending them back to bed but they come back 5 minutes later and ask if it's morning yet

YANBU. That's really early.
Mine get up around 8am, but beofre you hate me, that's because they won't settle to sleep at night.

as others have said I wouldn't have it! I like my sleep 7am is okay i prefer 7;45! but at 5;30 they would be escorted back 2 bed

Not a hope in hell I would have got up at 5.30 a.m. with a child! My DS refused to go down and sleep before 2 a.m. at the very earliest until he was about 4 months old, but because I am a night owl, this didn't bother me nearly as much as a 5.30 a.m. start would have.
I consider myself very lucky because between 6 months and 3.5, he would sleep 11-12 hours from whenever he went to bed, so if we were on holiday in Spain, we could have him out as late as 1 a.m. and he'd sleep until 11 or midday the next day. Get in! From 3.5, he tended to wake up at 8-8.30 a.m. no matter how late he went to bed, so very late nights became a thing of the past. He was 7 the first time he stayed up for NYE.

I know this would be a problem for some parents, who prefer an early to bed, early to rise approach, so if your sister genuinely isn't bothered about getting up so early, what's the big deal?

Not a big deal.

Thats quite normal here.

yanbu.

I usually hear mine traipsing about from 6:30 onwards. Even then it drives me up the wall as I can't wake up in peace. They're 5 & 3 and have got a bit better at playing in their rooms but if I could programme then I'd like 7:15 on weekdays and 8am (or later) at weekends.

5.30 is still night time.
Although mine r older now I never let them get up before 7am when they were younger.... Now none of us wake up before 7am on a weekday and 9am on a weekend...

You'll just have to wear them out more during the day and or put them to bed later.

God, my dd wakes before 6 every morning and has done for months. She will sometimes wake as early as half 3 and play in her room or read. She's shattered by 5pm and normally asleep by half 6 but no matter what we try, she cannot stay up later. Sleep in the day at the weekends doesn't help her stay cycle longer in the evening either.

We're at our wits end but resigned to it sorting itself out as it has before.

it's still the middle of the night, I wouldn't allow it, ever, but I am hardcore about early mornings.
7am earliest I will countenance, or it's back to her room.

both mine have had alarm clocks in their room from about the age of 2 and are told they havent to come through (except for the toilet) until the clock says 7:00. If they came through before that they were taken back to bed until it was time to get up. They are now age 5 and 8

Not unreasonable, mine (nearly 8 and nearly 6) have never regularly got up before 7 once they were sleeping through the night. They go to bed at 8.30, wake and get up anytime between 6.45 and about 8.30. They let us lie in till 8.30 at weekends pretty reliably. This has been the pattern for the last couple of years. We do sacrifice our evening time compared to other parents though as many children this age are in bed and asleep by 7.30.

Depends whether your sister minds it or not really, or whether it is a problem when staying with other people.