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Tax fraud WWYD?

57 replies

whattodotodo · 06/01/2012 23:03

My very abusive ex has paid no tax, none at allfor around 20 years even though he has worked the whole time. What would you guys do?

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WorraLiberty · 06/01/2012 23:04

Have you only just found out?

loosyloo · 06/01/2012 23:05

can you prove it legally

TheAvocadoOfWisdom · 06/01/2012 23:06

totally, unhesitatingly, unreservedly shop him. The bastard.

whattodotodo · 06/01/2012 23:10

Have tons of evidence. He's so blatant...thinks he is untouchable.
I've known for about a year.
I just worry about the implications for me and DC, but it seems so wrong to just let it go. He's a really nasty piece of work

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AgentZigzag · 06/01/2012 23:11

You've put the word 'abusive' into the mix, insinuating that you'd be telling revenue and customs (if that's the right people?) to get him back.

I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but if he'd know it was you who told them I'd be reluctant to muddy the waters further and it possibly impact on any children you have together.

Seabright · 06/01/2012 23:11

Shop him. Even if he wasn't your abusive ex. Even if he'd paid maintenance. How much proof do you have?

WorraLiberty · 06/01/2012 23:13

Did you not realise when you were together that he wasn't paying tax?

AgentZigzag · 06/01/2012 23:14

x-posts with you OP, it would be the thing uppermost in my mind.

I would keep hold of the information for reserves, although that implies blackmail or some kind of weapon against him, but you don't have to ever use it, maybe only to give you strength if you're feeling a rock bottom and he's being an arse IYSWIM?

AgentZigzag · 06/01/2012 23:15

arf at 'feeling a rock bottom' Grin

y'know what I meant.

whattodotodo · 06/01/2012 23:17

AgentZigZag I'd be lying if I said part of it wasn't to get back at him. He put me and the DC through hell really. But yes I worry about what would happen and yes he'd think it was me, although there must be many others who know.
We don't get any maintenance. CSA go on taxable income.

Seabright loads of proof.

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TalkinPeace2 · 06/01/2012 23:19

<a class="break-all" href="https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/shortforms/form/TEH_Report?dept-name=TEH&sub-dept-name=&location=39&origin=www.hmrc.gov.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">online.hmrc.gov.uk/shortforms/form/TEH_Report?dept-name=TEH&sub-dept-name=&location=39&origin=www.hmrc.gov.uk

do the form
I have done it several times(yes really)
if the info they have checks out they act
if not not
yout are UTTERLY anonmyous

LaVolcan · 06/01/2012 23:20

I used to work for the Revenue. We used to have a 'black economy department' and people did get shopped quite often. I haven't worked there for a few years so don't know whether they still do.

Is he self-employed? If so, it's his responsibility to sort out his tax. However, if he is an employee then it's the employers duty to operate PAYE correctly, so it's them you might get into trouble. However, if the employer were to be done for back tax then they would almost certainly seek to recover it from the employee, so he would have to pay up.

whattodotodo · 06/01/2012 23:21

Worral he lied so much about everything and we didn't live together. He just used to come and go as he pleased really.
Loads of things didn't add up, but if I questioned him he'd get really nasty and threaten to finish with me. He was also cheating and would be the same about that.
I found out about a year ago so a few months before I finally ended things. He was violent.

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lisaro · 06/01/2012 23:23

I believe you've known all along but now you're not benefitting you're not happy about it. Apologies if this is not correct. Report it.
www.hmrc.gov.uk/tax-evasion/hotline.htm

AgentZigzag · 06/01/2012 23:23

What's brought on you thinking about grassing him up after a year OP?

Because it might be utterly anonymous, but if something's happened to fuck you off with him recently he's going to think it's you straight away.

Him being abusive shouldn't put you off doing it in theory, because if it did that'd mean you're still in his sphere of control.

But in reality things don't always work out so easily, and some men can be right wankers when it comes to paying back double what they're dealt.

lisaro · 06/01/2012 23:23

www.hmrc.gov.uk/tax-evasion/hotline.htm

whattodotodo · 06/01/2012 23:24

Thanks to all of you by the way.
He's self employed
I really want to, I'm just scared.

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LaVolcan · 06/01/2012 23:25

I would just add - I can confirm what TalkinPeace2 said - the Revenue won't tell him who shopped him, so you have nothing to fear on that score.

However, sometimes people were shopped and we checked them out, and they were paying tax so we took no further action.

TalkinPeace2 · 06/01/2012 23:26

a dear internet friend (who I must get round to meeting one day - hi Sam) got some of the court orders against her ex nailed with the above link
do it now
get your family to do it
you cannot be traced
and if he is clean, nothing will happen
but if he's not, the ordure has just interacted with the ventilation device

lisaro · 06/01/2012 23:27

They will actually build such a good case that he won't have a clue how they found out. Honestly, I know Wink

AgentZigzag · 06/01/2012 23:27

How about thinking about it in terms of this question OP?

'Will it directly or indirectly impact on my children?'

And if it impacts on you then it will on them.

If the answer is even a small yes, I probably would let it lie.

LaVolcan · 06/01/2012 23:29

And if he is going around bragging about not paying tax then any number of people could be shopping him, so he definitely won't know who was.

whattodotodo · 06/01/2012 23:29

But in reality things don't always work out so easily, and some men can be right wankers when it comes to paying back double what they're dealt.
This exactly.
Since I left him he's been awful and has pretty much tried to destroy my life. I just want to be as far away from him as possible but he's relentless. Part of me wants to fight back and show him that he can't keep lying and conning his way through life and screwing up other people's lives and the other bigger part just wants to run as far away as possible but unfortunately I can't.

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TalkinPeace2 · 06/01/2012 23:32

zigzag
do not scare people
that form DOES NOT link to the reporter
I KNOW
as I've reported people I know through work and met them amicably since
my report was just one link in HMRCs chain

I bollocked one of my clients today as the accounts he gave me showed him turning over bugger all
then I did the accounts of the people who hire him (also my clients) and saw what he really earned.
he in big doo doo - both with HMRC (bad) and me (very very bad)

AgentZigzag · 06/01/2012 23:33

But you have fought back!!

He's your ex! Smile

He's insignificant now, you don't need to do anything more but try to put him behind you.