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to hate when people use the word “them“ instead of “those“?

95 replies

partytights · 02/01/2012 20:25

?i live them shoes?.

Bo. You love THOSE shoes.

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DamselInDisarray · 02/01/2012 21:00

Where I grew up people say 'they' instead of those.

yellowraincoat · 02/01/2012 21:02

Think it's a dialect thing, isn't it? Where I come from, we make no distinction between "less" and "fewer" and we say "can I get" with impunity, so nah nah nah nah nah nah nah.

partytights · 02/01/2012 21:02

Sumfink instead of something. Some twenty year olds actually SPELL it that way.

Boo for boyfriend or girlfriend. Surely it's beau and I hate the fucking word anyway.

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yellowraincoat · 02/01/2012 21:05

Nah, "boo" is an ebonics word for luvvaaaaaaa.

partytights · 02/01/2012 21:11

Beau is defined as a boyfriend. Is boo not a basterdisation of it?

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partytights · 02/01/2012 21:12

Of course. I just learned what ebonics means.

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yellowraincoat · 02/01/2012 21:14

Maybe "boo" comes from "beau", but it is a word in its own right now.

ZZZenAgain · 02/01/2012 21:17

doesn't bother me. I wouldn't like someone teaching it to my dc and it would probably jar on me in a formal context, say a speech or interview. Otherwise, no

fireandthefury · 02/01/2012 21:20

My IL use 'all what' instead of 'everything that'.

For example, "I asked the DC to pick up all the toys - all what was under the christmas tree".

Rather than "I asked the DC to pick up all the toys - everything that was under the christmas tree"

VeniVidiVino · 02/01/2012 21:20

'boo' and 'beau' are generally accepted to be etymologically linked, so same thing really as the dialect form becomes accepted as a different word than its original form.

Not keen on 'ebonics' though, unpleasant connotations IMO. I'd go for AAVE or BVE.

ZhenThereWereTwo · 02/01/2012 21:23

Annoys me too, DH does it, but he is of Jamaican stock and they all say it that way 'dem' so can't really get on his back about it. Will be teaching DD's to say those and speak English properly. Patois is fine for social occasions when colloquial English is used, but not in a formal context.

MaMattoo · 02/01/2012 21:25

I miss them days when people spoke good English!!
What bugs me more is the use of 'me' instead of my. I miss me gran!
Ah! Something about incorrect grammar makes me wince just a little each time I hear it.

Dawndonna · 02/01/2012 21:25
Grin
RainboweBrite · 02/01/2012 21:40

MaMattoo, I used to puzzle over why people say 'me' instead of 'my', when I was a child! I still don't really know why!

yellowraincoat · 02/01/2012 21:46

VeniVidiVino, I studied Linguistics, I don't think ebonics as a term is more or less racist the AAVE or BVE. The whole concept is pretty racist when you think about it because it separates and categorises.

I have discussed this at length and thought about it a lot, and I don't want you to think I'm dismissing what you said. Just don't want you to think I used the term without thought either.

AngelAtTheTopOfTheTree · 02/01/2012 21:52

To the OP - it doesn't so much bother me as just makes me think they are a bit thick/lazy/uneducated. =/

maras2 · 02/01/2012 22:00

Other people's grammar or lack of doesn't bother me on an internet site though I find it odd that some seemingly very bright posters seem to muddle up the words advise and advice.They don't even sound alike.Still in the broader scheme of things t'aint that important.

StopRainingPlease · 02/01/2012 22:02

So many of these... and I think I am the only one in my family who cares about them/those, less/fewer...they do it all the time and drive me up the wall! We've just been playing a board game and DH read out one of the rules: "The person with less trains loses." Aargh! I'll just kill myself now!

AngelAtTheTopOfTheTree · 02/01/2012 22:19

Apparently good grammar is not important. Erm, ok.....

Hecubasdaughter · 02/01/2012 22:32

It makes me cringe too. As does the incorrect use of saw/seen and done/did. I think it would be rude to correct someone though, I would correct my dds though.

echt · 03/01/2012 00:59

OK. Here goes. It's a recurrent usage from the Style and Beauty threads.

What do you think to these boots/this dress/this scarf?

It's what do you think of these boots, etc. I screech to myself. Then I namechange and say they look like shite. Just because of the misused preposition.

I made that last bit up.

RobinSparkles · 03/01/2012 01:11

Now I have that Nelly/Kelly Rowland song in my head:

No matter what I do
All I think about is you
Even when I'm with my boo
Y'know I'm crazy over you...

seniortoeslately · 03/01/2012 03:08

Those bones, those bones, those dry bones

doesn't really cut it for me, OP.

neshnosher · 03/01/2012 04:36

Don't axe me 'cos i knows nuthin' :)

But seriously if people are understood does it really matter what form of English they use?

Dolcelatte · 03/01/2012 04:52

Can't bear 'H' pronounced as 'haitch', or 'off of' as in 'off of the table', which seems to emanate from Essex......
It's not just pedantry. The problem is that many teachers don't understand grammar or punctuation either, so children are not being taught properly in schools and the problem is getting worse. I recommend Lynn Truss's book , 'Eats, Shoots and Leaves', to all those ('them'?) with more than a fleeting interest in grammar and punctuation etc.