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To wonder what parks would be like with out dogs?

93 replies

longjane · 29/12/2011 08:13

Who else goes to park to at least 2 times a day come rain or shine?

Would their people camping/living there?
Would there people having sex there ?
Would there be people there doing illegal stuff there?
Would want to walk/run there on your own if you were a women?

Do you think dog walkers stop any of the above?

Just wondering really how long our parks would last with out dog walkers?

OP posts:
3cutedarlings · 29/12/2011 13:14

Another thing ive just remembered, last summer i was earlier on our walk in the local park. The park keepers hadnt yet cleared all the litter from the previous days picnics, the lovely families that hadnt even bothered to take ANY of their litter!! there were spots where you could actually see where the blankets had been any all the little had just been shoved around it Angry. Now we all know that the vast majority of people would take their litter with them and it only the minority that spoil things for others, the same applies with dog owners!!

pigletmania · 29/12/2011 13:17

Dog shit free! Safer for kids. Some dog walkers let their dogs run in the children's play area which I disagree with, bought a new ball which dd was playing with there in the kids bit and this big hairy dog came up and snatched it from her and burst it, dd was very Sad. She was 2 at the time, and i had to go an buy her a new one.

LeBOF · 29/12/2011 13:21

Parks become safe when the community USE them- including dog walkers.

My local park used to be a bit of a no-go area, but it has had a lot of money spent on it in the ten years I've lived here, and there's a community group which runs events and fund-raises. So in this not-especially salubrious area, we have evening Bat Walks, Picnic Saturdays, occasional "waggiest tail"-type Dog Shows, with Police Dog Display Teams etc, Easter Egg Hunts, and lots of other stuff throughout the year.

The play areas are fantastic, all nature-based adventure equipment and soft turf, something for all age groups.

We still have the bowling club, and the lovely Victorian landscaping which has been preserved. Trees that have had to be cut down are decorated by the most amazing hand carving from a local artist.

There are outdoor exercise machines dotted around the park randomly, and you see people of all ages using them.

There's a safe fenced-in field for people to exercise unsociable or escape artist dogs, but the rest of the park is still available to them, and the children's play areas are only visually demarcated by plants rather that fenced-in, yet people keep their dogs away.

I won't pretend that I've never seen dog poo anywhere there, but there are lots of bins, and the vast majority of people seem to pick up their dogs' waste.

This isn't in leafy Surrey, it's not an affluent area, but because the planning and efforts to regenerate it has taken into account all the groups of people who would like to use the park, including dog walkers, everybody seems to rub along very happily.

If a park excluded dogs and their walkers, I agree with the OP that we would lose a core of community-spirited users who are there day in, day out, and contribute to a safe environment for the children who come out on sunny days. The key, I think, is cooperation and inclusion, not banning dogs.

LoveInASnowyClimate · 29/12/2011 13:28

That sounds lovely, BOF. I am very envious - and also pleasantly surprised that it seems to have had a positive impact on the irresponsible dog owners too. FWIW, I'm not sure how much difference affluence makes - we are members of a private park, as well as users of the public ones, and the private one still has its share of wankers who let their uncontrolled, aggressive dogs off the lead to shit everywhere, terrorise the ducks and swans, and frighten and upset people Angry. There are a lot of wardens who do their best but it's a big space and they can't be everywhere at once.

LeBOF · 29/12/2011 13:34

There's a private park a couple of miles up the coast to which our posher-than-yow friends lent me their key once. Never again- my previously well-behaved terrier cross went absolutely mental in there because it is riddled with rabbits Grin. She disappeared into the thickets for about two hours, leaving me looking faintly ridiculous forlornly bleating herr name at intervals, knowing it was useless...I won't show my face there again Grin

PregolaLolaOnAlittleDonkey · 29/12/2011 13:35

lebof very good story and i agree with the community using the park it comes back to life

MollyTheMole · 29/12/2011 13:38

yep, ban dogs from the park so the owners have to walk them on the streets and probably come into contact more with possibly the very same delicate flowers on here who would rejoice in a ban. Hmm

LoveInASnowyClimate · 29/12/2011 13:41

Grin at BOF. Maybe that's what's going on in ours - all the usually impecably behaved dogs being driven crazy by the exciting wildlife!

PregolaLolaOnAlittleDonkey · 29/12/2011 13:46

molly can you imagine? 'AIBU to think dogs should be walked in roads as a staff gave me a funny look once'

crashdoll · 29/12/2011 15:00

Where are all these parks covered in dog shit? I wanna know! I've been to many, many parks with my dog and never once seen one that was that bad and before I'm asked, no I do not live in a particularly posh area. In fact, oddly enough, the dodgiest park seems to be the cleanest (of dog poo).

Firawla · 29/12/2011 15:17

OP I admit I don't personally like dogs (scared of them) but you have a point so I actually think yanbu. I prefer it if the childrens play areas can be accessed easily from the street without having to go through too much of the dog walking areas though cos I am scared with them being their exercising off the leads but I have not really noticed a lot of dogshit in parks generally, I never see it in the kids playing areas so that is fine with me.
Parks that are mainly woodland, and wide open spaces are very suitable for dogs and as you say i dont think that many other people would really use it.
Some posh kind of parks with cafes, few different play areas and that are very popular and heavily used by young families then I think that may make sense to limit dogs but not the normal parks with loads of just open space

cantspel · 29/12/2011 15:18

crashdoll If you want to see dog shit come to our local park. Every weekend we have to pick up loads of dog shit from the football pitch before the boys can play and to add insult to injury our club plays a bloody fortune each year to the council to hire the pitches.
You then have to joy of shooing away random dogs who try to run off with the footballs. cock their leg over the training equipment or water bottles or invade the pitch mid game whilst their idiot owners sit on the park bench ignoring them.

CurlyBoy · 29/12/2011 15:44

Parks would be poop free without dogs! I also wouldn't have to worry if the dog off its leash running toward my little boy was just being friendly or about to rip his face off.

DoesntChristmasDragOn · 29/12/2011 16:10

Curly, that could also be solved if we banned children from parks.

DoesntChristmasDragOn · 29/12/2011 16:10

Not the poo, obviously.

tigerlillyd02 · 29/12/2011 16:16

I must have lived a sheltered life as I've never noticed such a problem in any park - and I've been to loads in many different areas.

The only problems I've ever come across which made me feel a bit uneasy are groups of teenagers drinking and smashed bottles left. I've seen this a few times during the day and at night at different parks, in different counties. If I was going to be weary about taking my toddler to a park it would be because of the drinking, swearing teenagers. Dogs wouldn't even cross my mind as being a problem.

scrappydoodah · 29/12/2011 16:42

I think all parks should be majority dog free, with designated dog areas. I am a dog owner btw. Dog mess, free running out of control dogs, and irresponsible owners are a menace.

CurlyBoy · 29/12/2011 18:12

That IS funny Doesnt. I didn't say ANYthing about banning dogs, did I? My point was that dogs should be leashed when in public. The law says they should be "controlled" at all times.

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