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Advertising a film about violence against women with a topless picture?

55 replies

thisonehasalittlecar · 19/12/2011 23:24

Is it just me but wtf is up with the posters for Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, a film that purports to deplore violence against women? They show the main female character topless (unless you count nipple jewellery as clothing) with the male character behind her, fully clothed, natch.

Ffs I walked my kids past this to see Arthur Christmas. I feel a strongly worded letter to the cinema coming on.

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bejeezus · 20/12/2011 09:40

YANNNNNBU

Are you supriswd though that Hollywood missed the point? And instead are using violence against women to sell the film?

There was no need to even make the film, there is a perfectly brilliant film already

I get annoyed with advertising posters for films in general depicting guns and promoting violence. I live in an inner city area with a gang violence problem, I really object to ascertain plastered over telephone boxes and the Luke- another thread though huh!

bejeezus · 20/12/2011 10:19

I posted my last comment without looking at the poster. Just looked at it - out fucking rageous!!

WorraLiberty · 20/12/2011 10:23

worra do you actually think that the fact that a lot of baddies in films are men is as negative an influence on our children (and all of us) as the fact that women are continually reduced to nothing more than their bodies? Really? Really?

No, that wasn't what I said. I'm not making it into a competition...I'm pointing out (as a Mum of 3 boys) that there are far more evil men depicted in movies than women, yet I've never seen anyone point that out.

I imagine if there were more evil women, a lot of people would point out the imbalance.

Trills · 20/12/2011 10:39

YAB a bit U to critique a film poster when you don't know what the film is about.

Him protecting her is a very silly way to portray their relationship (relationship as in how they relate to each other, not in a romantic sense). This character is one who takes care of herself.

TheRuderBarracuda · 20/12/2011 10:46

Of course there's going to be more baddies as men than woman in films. In a lot of films, women don't have fully developed character roles and are treated as adjuncts to the main male characters (e.g. the love interest) so there's going to be a lot more men of any type of character then there are women. And just lots more men than women in films full stop.

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SardineQueen · 20/12/2011 10:48

I thought you couldn't have pictures of fully topless women in public? And that's why they always put stars and things over their nipples on the cover of magazines?

Am I out of date?

thisonehasalittlecar · 20/12/2011 23:50

worra: what barracuda said; it's a bit like saying, "hey, have you ever noticed in Japanese films how all the baddies are Japanese?"

trills: this thread is about the poster, not the film; all I have to go on with regard to the content of the film is the trailer.

sardine: I think maybe they sneaked it past as she's got jewellery partly covering her nipple?

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ScarlettIsWalking · 20/12/2011 23:57

She is just a piece of meat isn't she.

I a with you op. what messages are our children getting from this throwaway imagery. Depressing.

ForkInTheForeheid · 21/12/2011 00:04

yanbu, started a thread a while back when a trailer first came out for it. Instead of portraying Lisbeth as the strong and independent character that she is, they portray her as most hollywood films portray the girl - in need of a male hero and vulnerable. Lisbeth is a vulnerable character but she doesn't need Mikael Blomkvist to save her (well she does at one point but meh) he needs her.

You should link this over to feminism. Can you ever imagine a male protagonist being portrayed like that? Urgh.

thisonehasalittlecar · 21/12/2011 00:27

Just to clarify, the poster I saw is not as explicit as the one OldLady linked to; it is more like this. The numbers are transparent so you can see through them though, if that makes any sense.

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Trills · 21/12/2011 12:26

he's 'protecting' her. Not very well, as apparently she gets raped twice in the film.

That was you commenting on the film not the poster, so I responded to it. Him "protecting" her is a stupid image to use because it doesn't in any way reflect what happens, but you saying that he doesn't do it very well because she gets raped is a silly thing to say (and irrelevant to your complaints about the poster) because at that point they had never met (or even heard of each other).

ThisIsAnExtremelyVeryGoodXmas · 21/12/2011 12:40

YANBU OP. It has no relevance to the main plot of the book (nor does the caption about expelling evil either imo, makes it sound like some sort of supernatural horror type thing) and does the character no justice at all. The poster from the Swedish version is far better and more appropriate for the character and story (in the excellent blog post linked to at the start of the thread). It just puts me off seeing a film I was already dubious about seeing, I loved the Swedish versions (mainly due to the fantastic Noomi Rapace), but as someone who doesn't often watch foreign language films I found myself focusing on reading the subtitles and very often missing the acting almost, it would have been nice to have a decent English language equivalent.

whackamole · 21/12/2011 13:08

^what she said!

I have read the books and Lisbeth would not pose like that. It would be utterly alien to her.

I wouldn't be offended had I not read the books as nudity doesn't bother me. It's just a body, and it's not in a provocative 'porno' type stance.

MrsHankey · 21/12/2011 13:12

YANBU

TheRuderBarracuda · 21/12/2011 14:57

SPOILER ALERT

She saves Blomkvist! Doesn't she save him in the first book at the end when she tracks him down to the log cabin thingy on the island? I seem to remember she saves him at various other points in the other books as well?

Anyway the notion that the pose in the poster shows him as protecting her is dubious because to me, it looks more like he's using her as a human shield!

DeePanCrisPandEeeven · 21/12/2011 15:04

For Lisbeth-lovers, it was all going to be pretty messy once Hollywood got in on the act. I remember the thread about this poster when it was first revealed and we were all aghast but not surprised at the irony of a woman like Lisbeth 'needing' a man to 1.protect her modesty in a poster or 2. to protect her at al.

will see the film on Boxing Day despite the poster.

and YANBU at all.

Richlinn · 21/12/2011 15:07

YANBU. Topless pictures should be on the top shelf not on show for all to see -regardless of age - in the cinema.
I've been in the misfortunate position to walk into WH Smith and there, out on display - for anyone of any age to see - is the front cover of NUTS showing two topless models posing in a pseudo lesbian pose. Personally, there seems to be no standards at all any more and no sense of social responsibility.

OriginalJamie · 21/12/2011 15:08

Thisone. The comments under the link you just gave rather prove the point.

Worra- have you read the book? I think if you had you might have an idea of why the poster is so .... crap

SinicalSanta · 21/12/2011 15:11

yanbu of course

OriginalJamie · 21/12/2011 15:12

And yes, there are lots of evil men portrayed in films in ways which are designed to get us excited, aroused and impressed by them. Quite a good marketing exercise for evil men, in other words

DeePanCrisPandEeeven · 21/12/2011 15:14

fwiw the beautiful Noomi Rapace

who is apparently single...

DeePanCrisPandEeeven · 21/12/2011 17:59

I think 2 hours of staring fixatedly at Noomi's beauty is quite enough for this thread.Grin

Selks · 21/12/2011 18:02

YANBU. It's bad.

Selks · 21/12/2011 18:13

I've complained to the ASA. If anyone else wants to just follow the link

Here

DeePanCrisPandEeeven · 21/12/2011 18:32

Complaint done, re pornographising. Thanks for the link, Selks.

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