Not to care that my fabrics have bacteria in them?

[perplexedpirate]

Washing powder that disinfects everything seems to be the latest development in hygiene products. Can't see the point.
Are we expecting smallpox blankets from the pilgrims?
Or am I just a dirty mare?

DTHWBOH my Japanese ex-DP used to leave rice in the switched-on rice cooker for 24h. We never got ill from it, though I wouldn't risk it now (there could be some Japanese secret involved that I wasn't aware of).

I buy anything that's on offer. I am a detergent-whore.

And it will NO WAY stop the single use towel brigade washing every day and sodding the environment! Because now, they will think they will fall down dead if they don't wash everything at 90 degeres in antibacterial powder after one use and tumble dry it afterwards even if it is a sunny windy day because of all the germs flying around outside, you see. This is after a daily bleaching of the kitchen floor obviously. Unless they do all that, they are pretty much wilfully murdering their children.

This is going to be like the towel thread, isn't it..

As for the rice thing, meh. I'm still here.

Deck i am paranoid about rice after everything i have read online. I have thrown left over rice away and i avoid taking rice to work.

Then one day i suddenly remembered my mum used to cook paella (rice and seafood) every week and we ate it for 3 days, we never got ill

Ah, I did know about the rice, I can't be that grimy!
Good idea about it making people wash at lower temperatures. The box should have "ONLY TO BE USED AT 30 DEGREES" or something on it.
Or "ONLY TO BE USED BY PFBs" maybe?

the only time i worry about rice is if we are on holiday and the rice is presented in one of those self service trays kept hot with water underneath.

At home left overs go in the fridge and get reheated in the microwave the next day.

The rice thing is garbled nonsense. It's only rice from a takeaway that you must never reheat. Rice cooked at home and fridged under correct procedure can be reheated - just like any home-cooked food.

With the push to wash at 30C, detergents that work well at a low temp are needed. Have you ever smelt a washing machine that is never run in a hot cycle? Peeuuugh! So perhaps bactericidal detergents may have a rational place for those of us who launder clothes when they are dirty, and want to do so in an eco wash.

That's what I do cantspel, DH seems to have survived so far!

What winds me up is the advert about how there might be bacteria lurking on your soap dispenser pump. You are only ever going to touch it when you're about to wash your hands anyway, FFS! Do we really need no-touch soap dispensers??

Yes use your no touch soap dispenser then once you have cleaned your hands touch the grimy tap after to turn it off

The rice thing is NOT garbled nonsense, you do have to be careful about rice

www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/can-reheating-rice-cause-food-poisoning.aspx?CategoryID=51&SubCategoryID=215

Surely the antibacterial washing powder is a clever way to stop clothes getting smelly? e.g. old sportsgear which gets so full of spores it stinks while you are running, unless washed at high temperature

I'm going to try it

MrsSleepy both my sons are doing catering at school and often produce rice dishes. (my youngest does a lovely fried rice with chicken tikka)

The rice is cooked some time during the day and god only knows where it has been before they bring it home and we eat it for tea. No one has hospitlised yet.

When I make egg fried rice, I run a cold tap over the rice to make it cold and then put it in the fridge...until later on when it's time to stick it in the wok.

We're all alive and kicking

Oh good, Glad everyone else does it to!!

Aaaaaaaargh the no touch soap dispenser! I'd forgotten about that.
This thread has made me want rice for lunch.

Worra i do that with plain rice but if it is cooked with meat and spices you cant put it under the tap, what you suppose to do then,does anyone know?

I don't care about washing powder BUT wrt it needs to be cooled down quickly and stored in the fridge and then re heated THOROUGHLY.

people are more likely to get ill more often if they sterilise everything. People seem to forget our immune systems are designed to handle these germs and actually get better at fighting/preventing them the more they come into contact

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i dunno, have left rice (leftover risotto) in the pan overnight and re-heated next day without anything bad happening
sometimes we put it in the fridge, sometimes not
good blast in the microwave kills most things i reckon

as for antibacterial washing powder, well that just seems daft. I like clean clothes as next as the next man or woman and if they look clean and smell clean, well, they're clean enough frankly. We're covered in bacteria, your clothes aren't going to stay bug-free for long. Contact with normal bacteria is good for the immune system! Enough germ hysteria I say.

The thing with the rice isn't that it's very likely to give you food poisoning, it's that if it does it can be serious - more serious than typical "ate a dodgy kebab" upsets. So, the fact that loads of people reheat rice and don't get any problems doesn't mean its not potentially a problem.

FoofFighters - as far as I am aware, washing things with detergent at 40 degrees won't kill all bacteria, otherwise that's how we'd sterilize stuff in hospitals. But it will kill quite a lot of bacteria, and presumeably there have always been bacteria on clothes and the human race hasn't died of clothing-borne illnesses, so I refuse to worry about it.

Anyway, an intact skin, and a robust immune system are pretty good defences against bacteria - and as someone earlier in the thread has said, actually exposure to dirt and bacteria when young strengthens your immune system, whereas being too phobic about dirt and germs can lead to a weak immune system.

Washing your hands after doing something dirty (going to the loo, gardening, handling raw meat etc), and maintaining a sensible level of cleanliness in your house is as much as is neccessary, in my opinion. And a bit of dirt never hurt anyone.

Holyghost, that's the case for almost every food. The point about rice is that if you get it from a takeaway then it is very unlikely to have been properly stored, whereas at home you know what you've been doing with it. There aren't many other takeaway leftovers that get kept and reheated.

(Except for pizza - 24h-old cold pizza...mmm om nom nom)

Similarly frozen food: once it's defrosted you can treat it as fresh, except with respect to freezing because of the build-up of bacteria once it has defrosted.

amuminscotland is right.

I guess the germ-phobic thing is probably a bit of a vicious circle. You sterilise everything so your PFB isn't exposed to germs, so your PFB never develops immunity to said germs, and when inevitably you stop helicoptering for 30 seconds and your PFB does encounter some germs there is no immune defense built up and so the germs make your PFB ill. So you redouble your sterilising efforts, thus limiting even further said PFB's opportunities to become resistant to germs. And so it goes on.

It's the Great Circle of PFB