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shocked parents still think like this

116 replies

maypole1 · 03/12/2011 16:51

Just reading the mums net sex education survey, and 3 people think sex should not be taught in schools at all Shock

Who are these people and all though the number is small I still cant believe people still think like this.

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WhoIsThatMaskedWoman · 03/12/2011 21:06

I agree that the parents should FAB, but what if they don't? What if they do a crap job, or they're too embarrassed, or they're fruitloops?

Bunbaker · 03/12/2011 21:07

I agree with WhoIsThatMaskedWoman. Also what if, like my DD, the child doesn't want to listen?

TheOriginalFAB · 03/12/2011 21:08

No one told me. I had sex ed at school but still didn't know what was what.

If parents can't/won't do it then there should be somewhere children can go to find out. I am not so sure school is the right place tbh.

TheOriginalFAB · 03/12/2011 21:09

If your child doesn't want to know it is easy. Don't tell them yet.

headinhands · 03/12/2011 21:43

Broach it young, get the nuts and bolts dealt with before they get that embarrassed thing going on.

Bunbaker · 03/12/2011 21:47

"If your child doesn't want to know it is easy. Don't tell them yet."

She is 11. She needs to know fairly soon, even though she is nowhere near puberty yet. I would hate her to be a figure of fun because she is the only one who doesn't know the facts of life.

ScroobiousPip · 03/12/2011 21:51

The high teenage pregnancy rates in the US, and the devastating HIV rates in the Deep South, are exactly why sex ed is so important.

Teach the basics in school. If parents want to layer on abstinence or marital monogamy on top well, great, that's their choice. No doubt their children will give greater weight to their parent's views than those of a teacher. But at least with basic sex ed in schools all children learn enough of the facts to be able to cope once they are 18 and no longer in their parents control. It's the only way that we stand any hope of bringing down the rates of STDs and teen pregnancy.

PigletJohn · 03/12/2011 21:58

No need to tell them, they'll pick it all up from other kids.

Like you can't get pregnant the first time, or if you do it standing up, for example. Or if you give a boy an erection, it's your duty to help him out or he'll get blue balls and they'll explode, and it'll be all your fault.

ginmakesitallok · 03/12/2011 22:15

I got told off by my 8 year old yesterday for telling her DD2 had squished my boobies when she was in bed with us - "Mum, she squished your breast, you're and ADULT you shouldn't use baby words.." Well that was me told.

I'd like to think that I'm much more open about sex and puberty etc than my Mum was with me. She never discussed sex with me, and when I started my periods she couldn't even bring herself to use the words "sanitary towels", I always had to ask her to buy me "things".

Sex education when I was at school was an embarassing blur - I clearly remember our biology teacher asking us to all close our eyes and the girls who had started their periods to put their hands up, while telling us that she'd do the same at the end of the year and more hands would go up... ANd in primary school I remember the girls getting taken out of class to be shown a programme about periods being told all women (even the queen!) having them, but we weren't to talk to the boys about it. Thank god things have moved on.

maypole1 · 03/12/2011 22:16

Oh yes the grate misinformation thing my mate got told by her sister you can't get pregnant when on your period she claimed she red it in sugar magazine

Her parents are mormons so was pulled out of sex ed

She has two lovely boys she is 29 one is 13 and the other is 11 you do the maths

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PigletJohn · 03/12/2011 22:21

It's lucky that ignorance protected her.

troisgarcons · 03/12/2011 22:26

She has two lovely boys she is 29 one is 13 and the other is 11 you do the maths

And? I I have non-religous girls @ 13 having birthed, still in school. So your point is? I have one 18 yo who has 5 ! yes 5! children (one set of twins) - still the borough says she has to stay in mainstem education.

So a 29yo, with a 13 and 11yo would seem to know when to stop popping them out.

WidowWadman · 03/12/2011 22:33

But why should it be the parents' job? I can't think of any other subject parents would object children to learn about at school, so why is that one should be special?

School doesn't stop you from teaching your children your own morals. Ok, it might teach them to ask questions, but in general asking questions always is a good thing. If you believe in your own values you shouldn't struggle finding answers.

Mumcentreplus · 03/12/2011 22:38

for me teen pregnancy is not the issue.. but disease and self worth coupled with self-respect...

maypole because a person belongs to a particular religious organisation does not make them more or less prone to making mistakes...most of the women I know in a similar predicament are not part of an organised religion..

I truly believe that girls have more information now than they ever have had...but the fact is girls need to be taught self control,self respect and know the power they have to respect it and own it

LittleDeerandMe · 03/12/2011 22:40

Giveitago - That's the level I'm at with my 5 year old ds also Smile.

Mumcentreplus · 03/12/2011 22:42

it's the parents job..to well PARENT..you know..your kids ask you something you answer them...it's no one else's job

maypole1 · 03/12/2011 22:44

WidowWadman IT is the parents job but quite quickly teachers,mps and health professionals realised some parents were not doing their job

Because of religious objections
Because they think what will be will be
Because their bad parents
Because they want to abuse their child with out interruption
Because they think only slags get pregnant
Because they think it only happens to chavs
Because they see nothing wrong with their 14 year old faking pregnant

So it is the parents job but their are many reasons listed above why the schools need to

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Mumcentreplus · 03/12/2011 22:46

School is there to 'teach' my children to read,write,maths and science...but I will not leave it to a text book to teach my children about human relationships

maypole1 · 03/12/2011 22:50

Mumcentreplus information with out context is useless so they need a adult to give it to them if the parents won't then it needs to be the school

I could tell you yellow stone has very low tax

And you would say and......or so what and its the same thing with sex

Teens need help with filtering the good sex info from the bad

Porn bad , were to get a smear good

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maypole1 · 03/12/2011 22:55

Mumcentreplus good for you but you must see many instances were parents won't talk to their children about sex

Were schools must step in

I have worked with children whose parents are sex workers and know it so their parents view on sex is very warped were will a child like that get good sound sex education from?

I live in a area were girls are not even allowed to show their face they were gloves lest a man see their hand

Were will these children get their info from?

Not every one is like you

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WidowWadman · 03/12/2011 22:57

Mumcentreplus but nobody tells you to leave teaching about human relationships to school. Nothing is stopping you from teaching your values to your children. However it is good if a child is exposed to different views, it fosters independent thinking.

So unless you're afraid of your child asking you questions, you've nothing to worry about.

And if you're afraid of questions, it's possibly time to have a long hard look at your own world views.

Mumcentreplus · 03/12/2011 22:59

but schools do tend to give you information without context...they give you the info without moral or social constraints...it's about information

I will tell my DDs about what can happen...feelings...desire..respect

maypole1 · 03/12/2011 23:00

WidowWadman agreed i think most who pull their children out are afraid that their views will be challenged in a way they can't defend like you said if your advice is sound then you have no worries.

I wonder what Mumcentreplus Is afraid of the school teaching her child

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maypole1 · 03/12/2011 23:03

Mumcentreplus really and you know that how?

The first p.h.s.e lesson my son had at school they talked about love nothing else just love

Hoiw you feel when you love someone and looked in to the secince behind love also looked at the different kinds of love

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LineRunnerCranberrySauce · 03/12/2011 23:14

Whoisthatmaskedwoman, The girls told the useless teacher (re: the crap aids advice) where to get off, and complained themselves. (Year 10.)

That teacher's gone from my DD's school - but to where???