to think that smoking in a bus shelter when it's pouring with rain is incredibly selfish?

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[Disclaimer] I don't hate smokers; if people want to fill their bodies with foul gloop then that's up to them but I do mind a lot when they inflict it on me.

Anyway... I was waiting for a bus this morning. It was pouring with rain and there were several people in the bus shelter, one of whom lit up a cigarette. So everyone else (including small child in a pushchair) had the choice of either staying dry and inhaling the smoke or going outside and getting wet. AIBU to think the smoker should have got wet?

I'd be very surprised if it isn't illegal soon

I though it was illegal?

I am a smoker, and I agree that is rude behaviour. If I wanted a cigarette and nobody else around was smoking, I would light up away from them. If it was raining, I would either use an umbrella or get wet.. but I wouldnt smoke in a small space if there were others around.

I am an ex smoker and DH still does sadly so I'm not 'against it' but yes I think that it is very selfish.

Also thought it was deemed illegal as it has a roof?

YANBU. I also thought it was already illegal?

It's rude if they don't offer you one first.

yanbu and it is illegal

:o LeBOF

This is the kind of bus shelter that has sides, a back and a rood but no front so it's not illegal.

rood? roof!

I thought a place needed 3 sides to be deemed illegal.

V selfish.

I'm a foul gloop inhaler smoker and would have either waited or gone out in the rain. That was definitely selfish. I'd rather have stood in the rain in fact because it's refreshing. I am of an age when people were allowed to smoke on buses and in cinemas and bloody hated it as a child.

Not sure about having a small child in a pushchair at exhaust-fume level though especially on a bus route. DS' pushchair has a massive hood and I always put it down near roads.

I'm a smoker but would get wet and out of the way and often have done. I'm very concious of not inflicting it on other people and it just hangs in the air sometimes even outdoors so smokers really should be more aware and considerate.

Selfish, but why 'illegal'?

I'm so glad you have said this. This always annoys me. I get the bus to work and always have to stand in the cold/wet if soemone lights up in the bus shelter. I'm in Belgium so doubt it is against the law here.

Yanbu. I would be tutting loudly and making a big show of putting the plastic cover over the pram while saying to dd "sorry darling we are just going to have to get wet" and being generally ridiculously English about it.

<a class="break-all" href="http://collections.europarchive.org/tna/20110202220654/www.smokefreeengland.co.uk/what-do-i-do/quick-guide.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">I have diagrams re the legality

I think smokers who would do that are in the minority. YANBU. Even if it isn't raining I wouldn't spoke under a bus shelter unless I was completely on my own. Or with another smoker. If anyone came along I would move.

so it is a "non-substantially enclosed building"
it is illegal to smoke there?

The small child wasn't mine BTW.

Filthy looks were ignored. I wasn't brave enough to say something.

It probably is selfish, but people only seem to be saying so because it is now illegal. Even ten years ago this would have been par for the course and no one would have thought of complaining, because it was recognised as that smoker's rigt to smoke in reasonable comfort. Current attitudes do piss me off, to be honest; and I say that as someone who has not smoked for nine years, nor would I want to.

The bottom line is - in my opinion - society is all about tolerating other people's minor selfishnesses for the greater good. Small children wailing also annoy me, especially when they are old enough to have it explained to them that they shouldn't; I wouldn't dream of asking the parent to escort their child outside in the rain. Obese people taking up more than one seat annoy me; again, I don't ask them to get up. I think that smokers deserve the same tolerance.

Just my personal view as always.

well, i do not think it is actually illegal. i cannot see anywhere that says it is illegal

i am not a smoker and i do hate the smell, especially in the mornings

Er... has anyone actually looked at AlwaysWilds link? I think its pretty conclusive

YANBU - I'm a smoker and feel guilty if I just dip under the roof of an empty shelter to light up out of the wind before I continue walking. Smoking in a bus shelter that other people need to use is the height of selfishness.

It's annoyed me for years, even before the smoking ban. I have lost count of the number of times I have ended up soaked because I was trying to avoid breathing in someone else's smoke.

YANBU I'm a smoker and if its raining I tend to stick at least my head and shoulders out of the shelter so the smoke isn't affecting anyone inside it. Doesn't stop the evil looks a lot of the time though even when another person is sat beside them smoking.