to think that smoking in a bus shelter when it's pouring with rain is incredibly selfish?

[AKMD]

[Disclaimer] I don't hate smokers; if people want to fill their bodies with foul gloop then that's up to them but I do mind a lot when they inflict it on me.

Anyway... I was waiting for a bus this morning. It was pouring with rain and there were several people in the bus shelter, one of whom lit up a cigarette. So everyone else (including small child in a pushchair) had the choice of either staying dry and inhaling the smoke or going outside and getting wet. AIBU to think the smoker should have got wet?

Nut here are no smoke free signs on bus stops in Manchester.

So technically it's first come first served innit?

I wouldn't smoke in an enclosed space or near children but what I realy hate is those moaning tutting people that have a problem where ever you are, noone owns the great out doors so if you don't like being around smoke move away, don't expect smokers to move for you

Nut - But

Not in a bus shelter. Its illegal. If its just a bus stop then fine, but not a shelter.

Cakeismysaviour

Is a bus shelter completely enclosed.

We just have those perspex lean to's here.

Its illegal if the shelter has sides and a roof, if it doesn't its ok.

Well all the sides are broken around here

You may have just saved me a fine cakes and I thank you for that.

Fortunately vandals have removed most of the sides of bus shelters in my area so they are all good to go.

I'll wheel like the clappers to get to said bus stop if it has been vandalised to get prime position.

Just kiddin'

Maybe thats why people broke them! If its not illegal and there is nobody else there already, then fair enough.

OFGS ...we'll all die young, not get our pensions, contribute so much into the tax system ..... lighting up at a bus stop with the rain and the wind howling through is a small recompense really for all that smokers do for YOU!

Yes love, like giving me massive asthma attacks and pneumonia when I'm immuno-compromised.

The bottom line is - in my opinion - society is all about tolerating other people's minor selfishnesses for the greater good. Small children wailing also annoy me, especially when they are old enough to have it explained to them that they shouldn't; I wouldn't dream of asking the parent to escort their child outside in the rain. Obese people taking up more than one seat annoy me; again, I don't ask them to get up. I think that smokers deserve the same tolerance.

I've decided I can be bothered to reply to that. A screaming child or someone taking up a seat is a minor annoyance that has no effect on you beyond that particular moment. Breathing in someone else's toxin-laden cigarette smoke is a serious health risk, especially for small children and people like me who have problems with their respiratory systems.

Why is it that when anyone complains about anything someone will always come back with "yes well small children annoy me blah blah blah"? It's such a lame argument for a start and, in this case a small child crying isn't on the same level as having fag smoke blown in your face.

I was a smoker for years and I would never have done this. Incredibly rude.

You can move away from crying children, you can move away from smokers

Smoking in bus shelters, as has been said, is illegal.

I come across people smoking in bus shelters and I ask them to put it out. Most do so without further discussion. One or two try to get uppity, I just point out it's illegal. They don't have much more to say after that :o

I hate smelling of people's smoke, I fought long and hard to give up and I'm not going to stink for anyone - and yes smokers, you do stink. Horribly, disgustingly and revoltingly stinky, you don't know how much until you actually give up.

Smoke if you want to, but don't inflict it on others, and especially not on me, because I'll tell you all about it.

not really

but the bus stops i use are on busy roads and i am more worried about the polution from cars i breath in everyday than a few puffs of smoke from a cigarette

"MIFLAW - must try harder" - don't know what that means, sorry.

"It's such a lame argument for a start and, in this case a small child crying isn't on the same level as having fag smoke blown in your face." I'm afraid that, for me, it is on exactly the same level. Other people's children can be immensely annoying and can really spoil your day. I live in London where the fumes from the traffic alone - not to mention the industrial estates out east - dwarf the effects of a single cigarette smoked five feet away from me. You don't agree with ,me, fair enough, but that doesn't make my argument any less valid.

Of course if you have asthma then that is a different matter. My point is that, as this complaint is invisible, the smoker is not being inconsiderate by not taking it into consideration. Of course, you should tell the smoker if you have asthma and he/she is hurting you, the same way as you would tell someone they were standing on your foot on the Tube. But it is not reasonable for smokers WHO ARE OUTDOORS to have to assume that the world is populated only by asthma sufferers and hide away accordingly.

Again, if it really is illegal to smoke in a bus shelter, fair enough, the smoker was in the wrong. But I really object to this wholesale vilification of smokers who are NOT breaking the law just because you or someone else doesn't like them doing it.

i alwasy find it strange so many get their knickers in a twist over a little puff of smoke they may breath in but will push their children in buggies along roads where their hight level is teh same as a car exhast beathing in these very very dangerous fumes but not think twice about it

YANBU I am a consumer of foul gloop, I agree that it is selfish to smoke inside a bus shelter. The shelters in my area have no smoking signs up.

also what spermy said :)