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To be annoyed at ocado man....

87 replies

cherub59 · 28/11/2011 20:48

.... For asking where his tip was?

I have never tipped the grocery delivery man as I thought ocado specifically say not to tip!!
And we pay for delivery!!!
And he was an hour late!!!

Does anyone tip the man from ocado?

OP posts:
GwendolineMaryLacey · 09/01/2012 18:40

I've tipped the Tesco man once, on Christmas Eve because he was on time and lovely despite cheerfully admitting he was running around like a blue arsed fly and doing extra shifts. I don't usually though.

SoupDragon · 09/01/2012 18:44

"...even though the only contact a Driver has with the bags is when they get them out of the van to give to you."

I don't think this is always true - I am convinced some of my drivers repack stuff into fewer bags/crates to cut down on the times they have to go from van to door. It certainly looks like thats what they are doing.

PersonalClown · 09/01/2012 18:46

SEA- honestly?? I wouldn't!
Pay isn't great, crappy hours, Head Office look on you like dirt and some of customers...!

I actually gave one a bollocking for phoning at 6am the day after the snow because dimwit DP hadn't turned his work phone off. They were demanding their shopping after HO had asked all drivers to come back as the snow was too much.

PersonalClown · 09/01/2012 18:48

Really Soupy?? I can't say anything to that. DP's never seen it and he's been there 2 years.

That said though, half of the other drivers I've come in to contact with are arseholes so I would't put anything past them.

southeastastra · 09/01/2012 19:12

i was just looking on their website and it sounded ok, need shift work to tide me over next couple of years. definitely not sure now!

SoupDragon · 09/01/2012 19:19

I'm completely convinced they do, PersonalClown. Not all of them though. Sometimes, with a smaller order (I have a delivery pass so order regularly!), they bring the whole lot in bags in one go rather than in the boxes - and each bag is always completely full which is suspicious. They definitely shuffle stuff about on the doorstep sometimes to leave me with less bags.

SoupDragon · 09/01/2012 19:20

I very rarely have damaged items though but when I do it is always down to stupidity.

SardineQueen · 09/01/2012 19:23

I have only had two damaged items in a couple of years, and they were things that are easy to break.

I know an ocado driver I will have to ask him about all of this the next time I see him.

PersonalClown · 09/01/2012 20:16

It may not be the driver then Soupy. DP's been getting loads of emails and gumpf about recycliing and waste and I know the warehouse are being pushed to reduce their waste too. But who knows.

I still maintain some drivers are arseholes though. I want to video the one that has a toddleresque tantrum every time he's allocated out of London!!

SEA- if you don't mind being left to your own devices, some quite busy shifts (22 drops in central London in an 8 hour shift, mostly high rise flats springs to mind) and an average wage of £280 a week (based on flat Mon-Sat day rate. Eves/Sun is more) then it isn't a bad job. There are much worse out there.

It keeps the roof over our head.

EdithWeston · 09/01/2012 20:53

I don't always ask for refund for damaged items, on the basis that I sometimes damage stuff on the way home. I do always if there's something missing (rare - happened twice, I think, in the years I've been shopping there).

But I still don't know how long after the end of a missed slot they will refund delivery charge? Anyone? Especially now the delivery charges are so high.

SardineQueen · 09/01/2012 20:56

Next time it happens why not press the button for a refund and see what happens edith?

We had one delivery once that didn't turn up at all and we didn't get a call or anything. Stayed up late and called the office and all sorts. We got it delivered next day instead, full refund and £40 vouchers IIRC

BsshBossh · 09/01/2012 20:59

Each and every one of our Ocado guys drop our shopping off quickly and always seem to be in a rush to set off. Even if I thought to tip them I wouldn't get the chance.

EdithWeston · 09/01/2012 21:09

There isn't a button for refund delivery charge. It would make life easier if there were (you could add the time it actually arrived, they confirm and knock it off accordingly).

I've always had to ring up when it's late delivery - it used to be quite a high sum in vouchers (similar experience to you, SQ). But now it seems to be maximum rounded up to next tenner above the delivery charge (when several hours late).

I don't want to waste the helpline's time, especially as it can take an absolute AGE to get through. But would like to know how long after the end of the slot they will refund.

It's a simple thing - surely MNetters know the answer?

perceptionreality · 09/01/2012 21:10

What a cheek!

flyingspaghettimonster · 09/01/2012 22:12

roughshooting, no, that was racism. Angry

I would think the driver very cheeky! I never tipped delivery in UK except take away delivery...

I tipped the men that delivered our big screen tv to our condo (up 2 flights of stairs, and box was so heavy it was hard for us to even move across the room) - they acted very surprised. I think it is sad it is not normal for people to tip on big deliveries like that - things you wouldn't want to heft up the stairs yourself...

neutrinoghost · 10/01/2012 22:53

My $0.02c.

EdithWeston - As far as I know, any delay of more than 10 minutes past the end of your delivery slot is entitled to a full refund. Although I've heard some people state that a delay of even one minute also counts, but I've never known exactly.

SaraBellumHertz - As a customer you can do what you like, all I'm saying is that the drivers don't like the system as it affects our pay. Admittedly the money is only docked from our bonus so I suppose anything is better than nothing. But when your bonus is being affected by people you have no control over including customers & warehouse workers, then the system is not fair and should be changed. As for your comment "And do you really think people receive deliveries intact, break items themselves and then request refunds?". No, what I'm saying is that customers who accidently break their own items by dropping bags etc. (I've seen it with my own eyes) would say to me "Don't worry about that, I'll just phone the call centre and tell them it was already damaged, I'll get my money back" to which I'm left thinking "Great, that's even more money I've just lost due to this customers mistake". When you're hoping for a quarterly bonus of up to £400 and you only get £60 through no fault of your own, you're left feeling slightly short changed. Especially when the company hooks you into the job by mentioning the "fantastic bonus to boost earnings". It's all lies.

I'm also glad I'm an ex-employee, I'd never work for them ever again, for many more reasons than just those mentioned here.

Soup Dragon & BsshBossh - Drivers will sometimes 're-bag' the shopping to make less trips to the door (personally I always used the trolley and never carried bags to the door but this meant I was ALWAYS late). Trying to find an address, park the van, get the paperwork + shopping out of the van, deliver all of it into the kitchen, get back to the van & drive off in 7 minutes (avg delivery time) is almost impossible. Drivers will take whatever steps necessary to finished on time & not get home at 2am. Any heavy items placed on top of delicate ones, all that is done in the warehouse. Bizarrely the warehouse staff get their bonus based on how many totes (red plastic boxes) they can fill in an hour. So the warehouse staff work fast and inaccurately to get loads of money (some earn up to £600/week) while the drivers get their bonus slashed because of the upset customers complaining everything is damaged & late, which is automatically assumed to be the drivers fault as the company claims that all goods leaving the warehouse are in perfect condition (to cover their own arse). Can you see a vicious circle here?

In around late 2010 early 2011, the bonus system was changed after a two week test showed that over 40% of reported damages were being caused before the drivers were getting to work. The warehouse staff had their "work harder get more money" bonus stopped, that's when the s**t hit the fan. Warehouse workers couldn't be bothered to put in the effort as their pay was slashed and the vans were dispatched late on an almost daily basis. That's one of the reasons a lot of delivers are now late. The vans are simply not ready on time. On top of that the company has MANY more customers & very few extra staff, the warehouse can't cope with demand and keeps breaking down. One more vicious circle.

How the company will last is beyond me. The share price is down 70% in 6 months. I'm VERY glad I didn't buy any shares as I was pushed to do in June 2010. With an average customer employee ratio of around 500:1 compared to a supermarket with 10,000+:1 I'm not surprised the company can't make a profit.

A £200,000+ profit out of a £640,000,000 turn over after 11 years of trading is horrific business. It's worse when you consider they've more than doubled their number of weekly deliveries since 2008 & they still can't make money.

Once they get properly established with more sites they might turn it into a huge success, but the question is whether they'll be able to get that far before it collapses. They need to get their new depot in Warickshire built ASAP.

whats4teamum · 11/01/2012 00:24

Has Jason turned up yet?

salsmum · 11/01/2012 01:49

Cheeky ....I would have said 'heres my tip.....never eat yellow snow' Grin

1789 · 12/04/2012 15:04

it sounds like i am the only one - but i always give the ocado man a £2 tip. they have never asked for it and never even looked like they were expecting something, but i know that i really appreciated tips when i worked in the service industry as a teenager. also, i think it's worth it because i love ocado and think they provide an excellent service and am very, very happy to pay the £2 for the convenience of not having to go to the supermarket myself every week!

hardasfuc · 14/10/2014 17:51

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hardasfuc · 14/10/2014 17:52

Bell end

ghostyslovesheep · 14/10/2014 17:55

wow you bumped a zombie thread just to be abusive ...epic!

Delilahh · 14/10/2014 17:55

Hardasfuc why have you dredged up an ancient thread?

InfinitySeven · 14/10/2014 17:55

This thread is three years old.

thesmallbear · 14/10/2014 17:56

He was probably joking!