To think everyone wants to have their cake and eat it?

[AngryFeet]

So our country is fucked financially. So we need to make cut backs? But all everyone is doing is moaning about said cut backs and trying to stop them happening.

I am not a big fan of politicians but it seems like they cannot win. It is all very well moaning about what they have done in the past (and I am talking about Labour and the Tories here) but that doesn't help us get ourselves out of the crisis.

Where do people think cut backs should be made? Or are they olnly happy if it is other people making sacrifices not themselves?

Bloody hell, schroeder! stop barging tethers! She bruises easy!

Sorry tethers, IT fail.

What about the Newcastle council staff who spent £1000 calling the speaking clock so they would 'look busy' towards the end of their shifts?

S'ok, schroeder- coming from you I quite enjoyed it

(But how do you know, Julia???)

Never you mind, young tethers I just know

Kayano, that should be deducted out of their wages.

Picked up a Thornton's Toffee/fudge/caramel cake confection thingy in the supermarket today; I could smell it through the box; almost fainted away with desire.

And, what laurie said.

Yes Kayano, that is obvously wrong, but you've got to wonder what sort of office culture there was that made the staff feel they had to pretend to be busy?

Not an excuse, but that amount of money is a drop in the ocean compared to the the thousands of pounds spent on consultations, travel for senior civil servants to go to meetings all around the county with no thought through agenda (meetings 100s of miles away from each other in one day followed by more meetings in the same 2 places the next day-baffled)

Senior staff Christmas parties paid for by the council, senior staff who have no idea how the organisation they are supposed to be running actually works, so they come to meetings with ridiculous suggestions that could not possibly work, or ones that are already in place. I could go on and on, but the only way these people seem to be able to think of making things work for less money is to cut numbers and hours of actual frontline staff, the people who actually do the work, not have endless meetings about it and forwarding emails to each other all day long.

Sorry it turns out I'm quite agitated about this.

at tethers and schroeder

13. Turn the street lights off between 12 and 4 (at night)- apparently our council are about to start doing that - and it will save 100k! Why don't they all do that.

someone else think of a 14

Learn economics plz kthxbai.

14. Sell off all non essential state owned property. For example the £2billion property portfolio owned by the Foreign Office.

mmmmmmmm cake

i agree that it is ridiculous to fight cuts that are basically ensuring the country's survival. The UK basically has no way to fund additional spending - though let it be noted that we are still spending, the cuts aren't even making up the difference at the moment.

I have my cake-left the UK and doing the same job for 3 times the money tax free, as is my husband. Not eating it, missing friends and family from home. Having the cake, huge house, free nanny, domestic help. Not eating it, missing my friends and family, not being able to come home when a parent is ill unless a doctor writes a note to say it is likely they will not get better.

Read Thereisanalternative to get another solution to debt/deficit