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To want a master list of everyone who is set to strike on 30th?

106 replies

EdithWeston · 24/11/2011 06:41

Because it's way more than just teachers, and I want to get some idea of just how disrupted things could get.

So:

Teachers
UK Border staff

Who else to add?

OP posts:
mrswattnot · 25/11/2011 21:08

In my office of around 30 staff none are striking, most are in Unison, including myself. I'll not be striking. Many other staff in the council I work are not striking.

iloverainbows · 25/11/2011 21:17

I would like to add the possiblity of council run leisure centres - so all swimming, childrens activities using the facilities will potentially be closed. What about rubbish/recycling collections? Libraries?

Don't go shopping on Wednesday though - town centres will be full of public sector workers!

clam · 25/11/2011 21:25

Interestingly long list.
Yet it seems that it's mainly the teachers who are getting slated. Why? Because it affects people's childcare arrangements.

Gincognito · 25/11/2011 21:40

I think what you mean is:

All central government departments, including senior civil servants (SCS).

Nowt unspecified about it!

LordOfTheFlies · 25/11/2011 21:41

YY the teachers strike does affect alot of people. And there was the strike back in June.
As you say it depends how it affects you. When the airline staff went on strike/threat of strike it would only affect you if you worked for them or you were planning to fly.

I'm an NHS employee but I don't work Wednesdays. (Still don't know if my DCs 2 schools are closed)
But I would have to take a days off (unpaid as they are not allowing holidays or carer leave) if it was a work day.

So there is a knock-on effect- it's not just the Public Sector workers who are affected.

smallwhitecat · 25/11/2011 21:46

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moonstorm · 25/11/2011 22:21

Can I just say PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS ARE TAX PAYERS, TOO. They pay for their own pesion through tax as well as with salary sacrifice.

IwishIwasmoreorganised · 25/11/2011 22:27

Because smallwhitecat, the conditions keep being changed.

When I joined the NHS 14 years ago, the terms and conditions of our pension agreement were quite different to those that are accepted by new starters now (which I accept are still pretty good). Our pension deals were all reviewed and agreed 3 years ago to ensure that they were affordable and sustainable.

The NHS pensions fund is currently paying in an excess of £2 billion a year which the treasury are pocketing.

The current proposals are asking us to change the terms of our pensions again. Asking us to work for longer and pay more every month (nearly £100 a month in my case) but to get substantially less once we retire.

Who in their right mind would be happy with that?

Sapphirefling · 25/11/2011 22:29

Just to emphasise again, that there will be very few qualified nurses striking - most of us are in the RCN - it's a condition of our employment because it provides us with personal indemnity insurance. If there ever came a day when the RCN (Royal College of Nursing) balloted for strike action, i would vote against it and even if they did support strike action, I would quite happily cross a picket line. I would not abandon vulnerable patients at ANY cost.

jonasmcflonas · 25/11/2011 22:36

Smallwhitecat - 'jealous guarding of existing privileges'?????

I joined a pension scheme in good faith (as the government encourages people to do) and now they are trying to completely move the goalposts midway through it. How is that fair?

MissMarjoribanks · 25/11/2011 22:38

I'm a public sector worker but not striking because I'm not in the union (Unison). I'm not in the union because they don't give a shit about their members who are professionals. Job evaluation completely shafted anyone who needed a qualification to carry out their job. Loads of my fellow professionals lost out undeservedly and quite frankly it stinks.

Sorry, just needed to get that one off my chest!

ProperLush · 25/11/2011 22:41

Good on you.

But you'd need to define 'vulnerable'.

And ask if you'd feel in any way 'abandoned' when you're old and vulnerable- and living on cat food....

Sapphirefling · 25/11/2011 22:49

Properlush - lets say that it's your elderly mother who is the vulnerable one on Wednesday. She's in a hospital bed, in pain and frightened. Incontinent and unable to feed herself. While you're on the picket line, I'll go to work and look after her.

LineRunnerSaturnalia · 25/11/2011 22:50

Regarding bin collections: if your council has already contracted out the service, then the contractor will work as normal or pay penalities.

If your bin service is 'in house' i.e. council-run, then they will probably be on strike.

workshy · 25/11/2011 22:54

paramedics are striking

999 cover only
no overtime
no hospital transfers

slavetofilofax · 25/11/2011 23:11

Sapphirefling, thank you. Thanks

My dh has a treatment booked for Wednesday and I hope the nurses there feel the same as you, as it is worrying even for non emergency things. Smile

georgie22 · 26/11/2011 12:15

Sapphirefling - I agree with you. I'm a nurse working with people who usually have very complex problems and really need the service that we provide. I don't imagine that any of my colleagues would strike even if the RCN had balloted and it was an option. I don't agree with the changes that are planned for public sector pensions but morally don't feel I could go on strike. The strike will impact on our job to some degree as we liaise with many of the other agencies that will be striking.

ProperLush · 26/11/2011 17:12

Q:- " lets say that it's your elderly mother who is the vulnerable one on Wednesday. She's in a hospital bed, in pain and frightened. Incontinent and unable to feed herself. While you're on the picket line, I'll go to work and look after her."

But let's say my elderly mother is etc etc on a Saturday or a Sunday? What level of care does she get then? Exactly the same as on a normal Monday to Friday? Certainly not in the hospital I work in.

Thought not.

The trained staff to untrained staff ratio is very different on weekends. Especially on wards filled with elective post-ops.

You know, sapphire what you've said, coming over all Florence Nightingale (the 'popular perception' as opposed to the reality!) is precisely why this government thinks it can walk all over us. Because we're all deemed to be carin' and sharin' and would never, never do anything that might compromise someone's convenience, let alone health, oh no, not the nice nursies! It's their vocation, don't you know?

I hope someone carin' and sharin' enough comes along to help you when the NHS is gone and you're 80 and living on cat food.

carabos · 26/11/2011 17:36

What like a list of each individual to put on a spreadsheet? Shock. Who could be arsed?

moaninlisa · 26/11/2011 18:08

Library staff
Health visitors
Social workers

Cain · 26/11/2011 23:24

Having scanned this thread I come up with nothing to indicate that anything useful is being done with this day off? Are there any London or local government protests going on?

Is any use going to be made of this day of stike or is it just about a lie-in?

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RitaMorgan · 26/11/2011 23:30

What do you mean Cain? I should think there will be rallies/marches/pickets in most large towns and cities.

Cain · 26/11/2011 23:31

So you don't actually know? Which one will you be attending on Wednesday RitaMorgan?

missymarmite · 27/11/2011 01:22

There will be one in Exeter. That much I know, as it's the nearest one to me.

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