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ex wont properly parent our children!

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aaaarghh · 24/11/2011 00:00

I have too many issues with him to go over but in short he has been shit, pays nothing, has a bonkers lifestyle. I have gone through great pains to maintain a relationship for him and his children even though at times he has genuinely done things that would make others say fuck him. Why? Because despite it all, they love him. Last weekend he came to pick up the children (half a day late). They stayed with him overnight. In which time, they did NOTHING just stayed home playing on (separate rooms) computer games. He dropped them off and said they had been up since 3.30 am in the morning. There is a sort of reason for this. His wifes children go to bed at 4 - 5 pm due to some sleep issue and one of them is autistic. Apparently my 13 year old had decided to get up after they had gone to bed on the Sat night at 10 pm, he had then fallen asleep downstairs. At 3.30 when they got up this thus woke him up. He went upstairs and then woke his sister up, at which point they both decided to just get up (naughty of them but sort of understandable considering the rest of them were up). So I questioned why he hadnt just told my children who normally go to bed at normal times, to just go to bed, and he said 'are you trying to tell me that if they told you they couldnt sleep that you would FORCE them to bed?' Im like, erm, hell yeah because 3.30 is nightime! Of course it makes no odds to him because hes up anyway with his odd little family, but then my children come home HANGING and hardly able to function the next school day. Just what else do I do. I dont want to say you cant see them anymore but Ive told him before this is unacceptable and he implies that Im wrong and controlling, but in actual fact i think he is just being a lazy parent. Admittedly, and possibly unreasonably it does get on my tits that they have this odd sleep thing going on but my children are only there every 4 weeks so i think he should make sure they get normal sleep?!

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WilsonFrickett · 24/11/2011 11:31

OP you have got a bit of a pounding here, and I agree with you that the sleep set-up in that house isn't the best thing for your kids - but if that's the way that family functions I don't see what you can do about it, apart from say no overnight visits?

However your line about 'odd little family' did read as if you were referring to the child with autism, and some posters rightly pulled you up on it. I read it that way and I don't actually have a problem, thanks all the same. Hmm

Dingdongmessily · 24/11/2011 11:36

If he only has them once a month I can't see the problem, it's 12 times a year.

My children have sleep hours, at their friends houses and here more often than that, and get just as disrupted sleep, doesn't seem to do any harm.

WorraLiberty · 24/11/2011 11:38

I think you'd be doing yourself a massive favour if you could somehow separate your resentment for your ex from this single situation.

You seem to be letting the other things your unhappy with him about, cloud this singular issue.

In this particular situation I don't think he was unreasonable to let them stay up as I'm sure they'd feel pushed out if they were sent back to bed while he played happy families (in their eyes) with his DP and her children.

aaaarghh · 24/11/2011 11:41

I said they have an autistic son to help readers understand about the wake up time. Then half way down the page I said they were an odd family. Completely seperate. I apologise if this is the way people have read it. i have feelings about the family, because I know them as a whole. People reading on here do not know them so they have jumped to the conclusion that I have put the 2 together. I have accepted their sleep pattern, its nothing to do with me and I cant do anything about it, but I still feel he has a responsibility to my/his children. He caters for his step children, so why not his own. Its very easy to just say to them go back to bed, we'll see you at 7 x

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BadTasteFlump · 24/11/2011 11:41

OP I think maybe you've posted this in the wrong section? If you're going to be so upset about people disagreeing with you, a more 'serious' section such as 'parenting' might have been better.

AIBU is all about having arguments - about daft things usually... (isn't it? Blush)

aaaarghh · 24/11/2011 11:42

dont know why i put a kiss haha sorry!

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ChaoticAngel · 24/11/2011 11:56

I interpreted the odd family comment as being about the whole family and them keeping unusual hours. Then again I've found myself reading comments from other op's differently than other posters.

StaceymAloneForver · 24/11/2011 12:29

ok im ignoring the whole autistic arguement.

i can understand u being pissed off about them coming back in a state but theres nothing you can do about it.

me and xh have been seperated 3 yrs and it took me about 6 months to get used to the fact he parents differently to me.

but you just have to lump it, if they lvoe their dad and want a relationship you have to suck it up.

Personally i don't agree with the fact my children (age 7 and 5) don't had a set bedtime, (i have seen facebook statuses from xh's dp about my son being awake at midnight, age 5 playing Shock), dont ever have to say please or thank you (and it takes me days to get them back to normal), get fed macdonalds for sunday dinner.

BUT i suck it up, because i love them and they love him.

aaaarghh · 24/11/2011 12:43

yes, thanks stacey. i do suck it up, i have had to suck so much up over the years, we have been seperated for 9 years and in that time ive had to deal with so much drama, had to withdraw them from being at his house because of a mentally, verbally abusive wife to them when they were little(different one to present), put up with him talking abaout me negatively, had him try and make arguments between me and my son. As I have said, I have fought to keep them seeing each other because I do want it for them. My ex has 2 children with another woman as well, and he sees nothing of them because she wont accept his way of living, so I do feel like I try quite hard. She doesnt and because of that he doesnt bother, so I know that if it werent for me keeping the communication open, he would have forgotten about them by now. I suppose its just crappy situation and cathartic to have a moan. Lots of people mention picking your battles. Well, I havent made a battle, i suppose coming on mumsnet I was hoping for maybe similar stories, suggestions, and I have had some so thank you for that.

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StaceymAloneForver · 24/11/2011 12:47

chin up aaaargh (i even counted your a's Grin

hopefully things will get better as they get older

being a seperated family is hard!

crunchbag · 24/11/2011 13:00

If it happens every time then be prepared for it. Make sure homework is done before they leave for their dad's house and then have a quiet Sunday afternoon with a simple supper and an early bed time.

ballstoit · 24/11/2011 13:17

Great advice from crunchbag.

I sympathise about the sleeping thing, ex-H has recently started having my DC overnight (at mine) once a fortnight and they're allowed up until they fall asleep (all under 6 but have managed to stay awake til 11pm a couple of times). They are hell when I get home at 4pm the next day, but I make sure we have a simple tea and they're in bed at 6.

IMO if you want them to have a positive relationship with their Dad, which I assume you do or why would you chase for contact, then you need to 'smile and nod' and make your plans to deal with the aftermath. The more you criticise, the worse their relationship is likely to be, which defeats the object of the contact you want them to have. They will come to their own conclusions in the end, best to leave them to it and adjust routine where you can to fit the unusual hours kept at their dad's place.

aaaarghh · 24/11/2011 13:25

homework chasing is the bane of my life right now! im forever nagging to get it done, he does get a lot!
In a way, I wouldnt mind too much if they were actually doing something, but they arent they are just on their computers. teenager plus stupid waking hour plus constant computer equals complete zombie!

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BadTasteFlump · 24/11/2011 13:39

I never 'homework chase' - not with my high-school age DC anyway.

IMO they are old enough to organise their own homework by that age. If they don't, they soon learn to after a couple of detentions

babybythesea · 24/11/2011 13:49

I thought you got a bit of an unfair pasting when I saw this thread this morning - to me it read as though this issue was the last straw rather than the whole issue in itself.
First up, well done for keeping the relationship going - your kids will thank you for it later.

I don't have any experience of this but I did wonder about sitting down with your 13 yo boy and saying 'Right, now we know that it was hard for you to get your homework done that weekend because you were up so late. So what can we do about it next time?' And maybe lead him to suggest that he does the homework before leaving for his Dad's (or at least does some of it so there isn't as much left until Sunday). Then gently remind him when the next overnight stay comes round. If he doesn't get it done, then leave him to face consequences at school. This should give him some idea and understanding of ways round it but does not turn you into the homework police.

I sympathise - can't be an easy situation.

babybythesea · 24/11/2011 13:52

Crap - sent it before I meant to.

I was trying to give a little bit of responsilbilty to your son for what he wants to do. So, maybe run through some choices he has. He can do some homework first before he goes, then he can get up if he wants to and it won't be such a big deal as he'll have Sunday to recover, or he can remember the homework situation on Sat night at 3.00am and decide to go back to bed - just sit down with him and come up with some suggestions between you for how to manage the situation which clearly isn't going to change. This means you can support him without being seen to be the bad parent coming in and storming about the bad time his Dad gives them.

aaaarghh · 24/11/2011 14:02

thank you, very good advice

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