...to be fucking Horrified that my neighbour Killed His Dog??

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Was chatting to our next door neighbour who is ok (I thought), in his late 40's with a lovely family and his own consultancy business. He mentioned that his dog was incontinent and probably dying and how sad his daughters were about it, all innocently I said 'Ahh thats sad when will you be taking him to vets' he said 'I'm not paying any bluddy vets I'll take him out and shoot him' (he does have guns for hunting)...cue stuttering WTFS??? from me..

He was quite indignant and said 'With our last dog me and a friend took him to a forest and injected him with ketamine, he went straight to sleep its EXACTLY what the vet would do'
I said I'm pretty sure it WASN'T exactly what the vets did and bluffed a bit about knowing they used a cocktail of drugs for different things - which in fact don't know - can any vets confirm for me?

Anyway I asked him to leave my house, I wasnt being all 'PC gorn mad' was I??

Bastard (him, of course).

Yanbu

As long as it's a quick humane death (I presume he means he'd put a bullet in the dog's head rather than use it for target practice) I don't think it matters who kills the dog

YANBU. I'd have been shocked too. It's just not something you expect. How will he explain that to his DDs? (Is bad enough when you get a professional to put your pet down). And supposing he misses with the shot?

I think you're right about the cocktail of drugs - they will tailor it to the dog, depending on its size etc.

I don't know anything about what vets do, but i suppose as long as the dog dies instantly and painlessly then it is probably less stressful for the dog than being taken to the vet. How would someone with no training guarantee that it was instant and painless though?

I don't see the problem, tbh. A quick bullet to the head, a shot of ketamine - they both sound like pretty humane solutions to me. [prepares self for ritual slaughter by dog lovers

I think it matters. A calm tranquil visit to the vet vs a traumatic assault by a bullet, I know which I'd rather put my pets through

Horrible man.

yeh the thing that annoyed me about the ket thing is presumably having had access to ketamine he must have taken it so know that someone who appears to be sleeping can actually be in a 'K hole' having horrific hallucinations so his argument that it was defnitely a humane death is bollocks!

You are going to get a mix of replies.

I have had dogs all of my life and would not be without one.

When it comes to the end, it should be done in the manner that causes the animal the least suffering and stress.

Neither of you are wrong, it just depends on the situation and if he is an experienced hunter, he will probably cause the animal to suffer less than the trip to the vet, would.

Farmers and hunters have been putting their dogs (and horses) to sleep for centuries, without involving vets.

I think that it is illegal to kill a dog, though.

Ketamine is a tranquilizer, yes? I don't see anything wrong with the owner killing the dog, as long as it was humane death (which I can't be sure it was, admittedly).

Presumably he'll just say he put the dog out of its misery to his dds? I don't see the difference. If I was the dog I'd rather be shot by my owner than injected in an unfamiliar clinic by a stranger

What an awful man. I'd be on the phone to the police if I were you.

Was it a gun dog? If so, and if he is a good shot, I think it must've been far less stressful for the dog than being bundled in the car and taken to the vets. Have donned my flame retardant suit though!

I would have thought it would be less stressful for the dog - so long as it was completely humane and painless - than a trip to the vets. A trip to the woods with its beloved owner? sounds ok to me. You read on here about horse owners putting their own animals to sleep - why shouldn't owners of other animals be allowed to do it if they have the means and are of the mindset?

tis a black lab, a pet not a gun dog. I don't know how experienced a hunter he is... I am fully prepared to accept that I'm being small minded and middle class about it - its just so out of my realm of experiences it made my mind boggle!

It will be interesting to see how this thread goes.

I am not particularly fond of dogs but this does sound a bit grim. I wonder if he has thought it through properly. What if something went wrong? Maybe he was winding you up? I don't think I'd have evicted him from my house, though. Mocked him gently, perhaps...

He defnitely wasn't winding me up but he does think before he speaks, hopefully he wont go through with it! I just went all cats bum mouth and told him the baby needed feeding so could he go

I can't help laughing,
at how perculiar that is.

But actually, it does make shockingly good sense.

burnttoffee he's a management consultant who does nothing with horses? his hunting is grouse n' stuff. He has referenced being a retired club rat and from the weed smells that waft into our garden I'd suspect recreational!!

Is it even legal to kill you dog yourself?

Why would you take a dog to a forest to inject him? Did they buy him there?

I would rather my cat was shot in the garden than went thought the trauma of going to the vets - not that I would do that because, well, it's not what you do.

Also, this bloke has guns for hunting, so ending animals lives is something he finds enjoyable, so I'm not surprised he thinks this was OK.

Aren't they a special type of gun though unexpected he just has a shotgun and a rifle