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to deliberately split an infinitive in a thread title?

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MardyBra · 23/11/2011 15:24

Psammead has put me in charge of pedant baiting when she is in charge at the weekend, when everyone is off at the meet-up. Thought I'd get a bit of practice in.

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HappySeven · 23/11/2011 16:02

I'm probably being a bit thick here but surely it's not a split infinitive if it starts "am I being unreasonable" as all AIBU do?

MardyBra · 23/11/2011 16:02

Indeed MrsTP.

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Psammead · 23/11/2011 16:03

Mardy, Mardy...

I get passionate about split infinitives. Really, truly.

We attempt to adhere to the grammatical rules of a dead language because at one time it was seen as perfect.

It wasn't perfect, people! It was just a language! They couldn't split their infinitives. It was physically impossible. We can. And should. Whyever wouldn't we? We are not Latin speakers! We are British! God save the queen.

What did the Romans ever do for us, eh? Eh? Made us afraid of our own bloody language, that's what. The buggers.

Maryz · 23/11/2011 16:04

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TheAlmostFestiveKnid · 23/11/2011 16:05

MardyBra, you are a rubbish pedant baiter, you should be sacked. I am a self-confessed arch pedant (Hmm), but split infinitives don't bother me at all. Grin You've got to try harder.

MardyBra · 23/11/2011 16:05

HappySeven. "to split" is the infinitive. I deliberately put "deliberately" in between the "to" and "split".

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Maryz · 23/11/2011 16:06

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Andrewofgg · 23/11/2011 16:06

You mean its derivation, as we are in pedant mode. And a Romance language. I don't normally do this but this thread is special!

Psammead · 23/11/2011 16:07

Mardy. That's quite a funny x-post. I thought for a moment you were outraged at my Latin rant. Grin

MardyBra · 23/11/2011 16:07

Psammead - you are preaching to the converted! DH and I have been having this argument for two decades. What does he know? He's a bloody scientist by training. I don't try and preach to him about science.

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toboldlygo · 23/11/2011 16:08

-polishes username-

MardyBra · 23/11/2011 16:08

x posting again.

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TheAlmostFestiveKnid · 23/11/2011 16:09

No, 'to deliberately split' is definitely a split infinitive. :)

MardyBra · 23/11/2011 16:09

lololololol at toboldlygo

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Psammead · 23/11/2011 16:09

But there is a split infinitive in the title. There is, there is.

HappySeven · 23/11/2011 16:09

Thanks, Maryz!

Psammead · 23/11/2011 16:10

Urgh, I meant Maryz.

MardyBra · 23/11/2011 16:10

Maybe I should of made a different mistake in the thread title...

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TheAlmostFestiveKnid · 23/11/2011 16:10

'to split' is the infinitive, it's split by 'definitely'.

Dawndonna · 23/11/2011 16:10

I shouldn't of come on here its making me wont to cry!

HappySeven · 23/11/2011 16:11

And fair point, MardyBra, I hadn't really thought it through. I always just look for them at the start of sentences.

WilsonFrickett · 23/11/2011 16:12

Ahem.

To deliberately split is a split infinitive. Correct usage is to split deliberately.

But it is OK to split the infinitive in modern English. The Times style guide and many others agree with me.

habbibu · 23/11/2011 16:13

Can't think of a single example where a "split" infinitive isn't grammatically ok. Stylistically some people object to them, but that's taste, not grammar. In many cases I think they reduce ambiguity, which I think is better writing. Have a v good quote from dictionary of linguistics I can find when not typing from phone.

Maryz · 23/11/2011 16:14

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Psammead · 23/11/2011 16:16

Ok. We have established that in infinitive is split.

And that [certain] MNers would not know a split infinitive if itbit them on the bum. You Know Who You Are.