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154 replies

Minus273 · 21/11/2011 12:43

I have just had the Council out as they are trying to have us taking off the list, we are homeless thanks to redundancy and are camped out in my mum's spare room. Before I get flamed for this I know we would be waiting years, I know there are no homes but not being allowed on the waiting list just feels psychologically like a kick in the teeth. I hope someone knows what I mean.

We are overcrowded as there are 3 adults, 1 child and about to be a baby so quite stressed living conditions. My Mum is elderly, I am 37.5 weeks pregnant so I have been struggling with the basic housework never mind anything else. I haven't seen DH for 5 weeks as he has been away finishing up at work away from home. The only good thing about this being his last day is I won't be trying to do everything myself any more.

There is a box room with the boiler on the wall, not in a cupboard but just in this small room. She objects that I didn't move the storage cabinet in the room for her. I could do it normally although would take a while I'm just not up to it at the moment when even walking hurts and I spent the time leading up to the 37 week mark on MW orders to rest to try and avoid premature labour due to signs I was showing. She then said I could fit a cot in if I slid it under the boiler so we wouldn't be overcrowded. When I objected saying it wasn't safe as the boiler regularly drops pressure letting the seal go and leaking boiling water. She said this was my choice not to do this so was deliberately making ourselves overcrowded and should do it as she thinks we shouldn't then be over crowded and have no right to be on the list. She spent the whole quick visit looking down her nose at me and making it clear she though I was scum. I can't stop sobbing now.

Am I really so unreasonable not to move heavy things when so heavily pregnant and to refuse to put my baby's life in danger?

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RealityIsADistantMemory · 21/11/2011 13:06

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Portofino · 21/11/2011 13:08

So it is not a room - it is a cupboard?

squeakytoy · 21/11/2011 13:09

reality ???

RealityIsADistantMemory · 21/11/2011 13:09

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WorraLiberty · 21/11/2011 13:10

How many actual bedrooms does the house have?

squeakytoy · 21/11/2011 13:11

Sounds like a 3 bedroom house to me.

Minus273 · 21/11/2011 13:14

The MW says if we use the living room as a bedroom she will raise concerns with SS.

My mum owns the house.

The redundancy will cover the loan and what was put on cc to try and keep going. What's left will feed us and pay for nappies for a couple of months. DH has already been job hunting I am going to apply to return to my Saturday job early and start job hunting as soon as I'm discharged from hospital.

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ShirleyKnot · 21/11/2011 13:14

What would happen if you went and said that you're mum had kicked you all out and that you are now homeless?

dreamingbohemian · 21/11/2011 13:14

Of course YANBU in not wanting to put the crib under the boiler.

I know someone who recently adopted a baby, and it almost didn't go through because they have rules that the baby cannot sleep in the same room as the boiler, even if it is in a cabinet.

Also, if the space is not much bigger than the crib, then it's not really a room, it's a closet.

How many other bedrooms are there?

Presumably you can use DH's last paycheck toward a deposit, plus the extra benefits when the baby is born... I know it must suck but hopefully you can be out of there in a couple months?

pinkdelight · 21/11/2011 13:15

Moses basket? smaller cot? move the boiler? Is there a living room where you could sleep with the baby? I slept in our living room for the first few weeks with both DSs. How far away is DP's family? Could he stay there till you get somewhere else? Sounds like there are options, and like you could be way more overcrowded, so don't give up hope. Hope you manage to rent somewhere soon.

RealityIsADistantMemory · 21/11/2011 13:16

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ShirleyKnot · 21/11/2011 13:17

Oh and yes, how many bedrooms is the property please?

And the MW is talking bollocks. You seem to be constantly running up against these horrific authoritarian wankers Minus. It must be fucking exhausting, it's not a bloody SS issue where people sleep in their own homes FFS!

dreamingbohemian · 21/11/2011 13:17

oh sorry x-post

Why does your MW need to know about your living situation? Just don't tell her.

pinkdelight · 21/11/2011 13:17

"The MW says if we use the living room as a bedroom she will raise concerns with SS.

How strange. What's it got to do with her?

MainlyMaynie · 21/11/2011 13:17

Are people seriously saying they would be happy to put their baby's cot under a boiler, whether it leaked or not? I wouldn't have my baby sleeping in the same room as a boiler.

OP though, you don't give enough coherent info to know whether YABU.

Portofino · 21/11/2011 13:18

But your DH was working til now? You are at your mum's and he was staying with family - and you were working PT? Where is all the money going? Surely you could afford to pay rent before - so should have been able to save all that money?

Minus273 · 21/11/2011 13:20

There are 2 bedrooms. Why do you think I'm stressed reality I don't let XH through the front door, I'm trying my best to keep it spotlesss which is more difficult when things are cramped. It is also the reason I am jumpy about any mention of SS. I don't want them to find out. Before anyone helpfully tries to suggest the court order would solve the overcrowding, in actual terms yes but never seeing dd again is a big price to pay.

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QueenofJacksDreams · 21/11/2011 13:21

When we lived in a one bedroom flat and had DD we turned the living room into our bedroom and my MW who was a nasty cow didn't say a word about it. We had no heating and were in a 3rd floor flat. We had letters written by our MW/HV/MP to the housing the reply to the MW was basically that her input while valuable to them was really nothing to do with them and could not affect their descion either way so I have no idea why yours seems to be affecting your housing situation so much.

StrandedUnderTheMisltoe · 21/11/2011 13:21

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Upwardandonward · 21/11/2011 13:22

How did you leave your last tenancy? This can influence whether they feel you are intentionally homeless or not, which affects whether you can apply for help from them.

RealityIsADistantMemory · 21/11/2011 13:23

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PeppaPigandGeorge · 21/11/2011 13:26

As others have said - how many bedrooms???

The space standard is one bedroom per adult or couple, 2 children can share a bedroom up to age 10 if different sexes.

So if there is a bedroom for you and DH and one for the children, then you are not overcrowded. If there is an issue with the boiler, then get the boiler fixed.If your mum's house is Council, they should do this.

Why would you need to move anything when heavily pregnant? What about DH? Or wait until after the birth, if you need to move it to accommodate the baby.

Seriously, hidden homelessness is a big problem , but you need to get a grip.

WorraLiberty · 21/11/2011 13:27

The MW says if we use the living room as a bedroom she will raise concerns with SS

How strange. My council insists people are not overcrowded unless they are using the living room to sleep in.

In fact, if you have a seperate dining room you must use it as a bedroom as you will not be given another property if you don't.

Why would your CC debts come before a house deposit? If you and your DH are not working, you simply speak to the CC company and work out a repayment plan.

Your priorities seem to be all in the wrong order.

ShirleyKnot · 21/11/2011 13:27

I didn't know that Stranded! Is it only old gas fires that applies to or any gas fire?

squeakytoy · 21/11/2011 13:27

Seems like there is a lot of hidden backstory with a change of name here...