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Are they being unreasonable? Banned from local KFC today

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GraciousLife · 17/11/2011 21:00

Popped into my local KFC today. Due to the area I live in, they have screens up between customer and cashier (like in post offices and banks), which makes it hard to hear what is being said. I didn't understand what the girl asked me, and, as I often say when I don't understand what someone has said, I jokingly said "Can I have that in English please", without thinking/realising/noticing the cashier was from another country (english being her second language).

The cashier got very upset. More upset than I would have thought is necessary, and refused to continue to serve me. I was shocked. She got her manager and told her what I had said. To cut a very long story short, I have been banned from the store.

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southeastastra · 17/11/2011 21:16

what sort of gravy do you get with kfc? doesn't it make the crispy chicken soggy?

bibbitybobbitybloodyaxe · 17/11/2011 21:17

Gosh - I've heard that phrase used thousands of times and never thought it was offensive. Its possibly a little old fashioned now?

One could legitimately use it in response to someone who was talking a load of management speakery bollocks but possibly it wasn't wise to say it to someone who really doesn't speak great English.

Total over-reaction to have you thrown out of KFC for it though!

StewieGriffinsMom · 17/11/2011 21:17

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QuintessentialShadow · 17/11/2011 21:20

They probably get racist remarks all the time, and classify this with all the other put-downs foreigners get in this country.

Especially on a day like today, with the heading in Daily Mail, about foreigners coming to take even MORE jobs....

Hmm
VivaLeBeaver · 17/11/2011 21:21

I am actually craving some chicken burgery thing now.

Hulababy · 17/11/2011 21:23

The phrase itself is a fairly common one and I have never heard it said in an offensive way and most definitely not meant in a racist way. It's normally only said if you mishear someone.

However, because the cashier didn't have English as a first language in this case I can see how they could have taken offense at it. I know you say you hadn't noticed beforehand. But surely once you did, did you not apologise - and also explain to the manager?

What happened after this for you to be banned?

BoysBoysBoysAndMe · 17/11/2011 21:24

MMM Big Daddy meal with Pepsi and gravy!!

Hulababy · 17/11/2011 21:24

Also, it's not really a phrase I've heard people use with strangers or in this kind of setting - more between friends after a mishearing. So def not normally an offensive term.

BoysBoysBoysAndMe · 17/11/2011 21:24

Seriously OP....what did you have for lunch?

birdsofshoreandsea · 17/11/2011 21:25

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JamieOliveOil · 17/11/2011 21:26

southeastastra Oh you haven't lived. You poor the gravy on the plate next to your chicken and dip it in. It's scrummy. Mind you after I have eaten KFC I spend the rest of the evening despising myself Grin

3cutedarlings · 17/11/2011 21:27

Sarcastic comment at the very least, very rude of you IMO why couldn't you just have said pardon?

VivaLeBeaver · 17/11/2011 21:28

I've never hear of gravy with a kfc!

NinkyNonker · 17/11/2011 21:28

I could go for some despising myself right now...

ArtVandelay · 17/11/2011 21:28

I think you used the phrase out of context, like other posters have said. As for her reaction, well as a person who doesn't live in their native land I can understand that. There are a few people living my town that have took the piss out of my German on a day when I wasn't in the mood and got more than they bargained for. Its a cheap shot and it is really below the belt, specially if you are doing your best. If she happened to take it as a racist remark then I think you'll just have to accept that and remember not to use it in future. There's loads of KFC's anyway - you aren't banned from all of them!

JamieOliveOil · 17/11/2011 21:29

Obviously you don't poor, you pour!

VivaLeBeaver · 17/11/2011 21:29

Shudder at pardon.

Grin

Say what!

HecateGoddessOfTheNight · 17/11/2011 21:31

Probably best that they banned you.

After that little gem, you would have been looking at a lifetime of phlem coated chicken wings...

Clearly she and her manager interpreted what you said to her as a racist attack and that is why you were banned.

HairyBeaver · 17/11/2011 21:32

Kfc gravy is the best Smile

TandB · 17/11/2011 21:32

I can't imagine how they could NOT have thought you were being racist. I accept your explanation that you weren't, but it would be the obvious assumption in the circumstances.

The phrase you used is a light-hearted/offensive one which means "you are making no sense". It doesn't mean "I can't hear you".

If someone said it to me, even as an English speaker, I would think they were being rude and implying I was waffling on or something. It would never occur to me that they simply hadn't heard me.

Tortington · 17/11/2011 21:33

i dont think you used it out of context - i think it very much depends where you live.

and even if you did - to ban you is a gross over reaction - but in your favour as KFC is fucking hiddious aweful shite in a bucket with sides that no one eats.

when i was swimming yesterday - they had swimming lanes set up - just the one - the other was used for lessons and the rest of the pool for kids ...there were so many of us swimming that we wee actually queuing after each length, i said to woman in front ' very british all this queuing' she replied in an eastern european accent and i thought ' shit' talk about putting my foot in it

Bethshine82 · 17/11/2011 21:34

To be honest if you just said it without noticing like you said you did and then apologised then I think KFC have blown it out of proportion. It seems like a fairly minor thing to happen if it was just a casual remark. Like if you'd said it and then immediately clarified it with "I mean I couldn't hear very well because of the screen thing," then I don't see why there was a massive issue to be honest.

Part of me thinks KFC need to get a grip.

Tortington · 17/11/2011 21:35

if dh says something i dont understand i say ' come again in english this time' its something i could imagine saying easily to someone. i think the manner in which you say things often belies the intent

Bethshine82 · 17/11/2011 21:35

And it's hardly a "racist attack" however you look at it is it really?!

HecateGoddessOfTheNight · 17/11/2011 21:44

Hmm I didn't say it was one, I said they clearly interpreted it as one.

Which they did.

They banned her.

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