mum on benefits can afford to keep her dds 2 horses

[jugofwildflowers]

This is a lovely mum by the way. She has never married but been with the same partner for 25 years and they have 3 dc. He works and has another home but stays in family home often, although because she is 'single' and on benefits, she gets everything paid for and her dc have free school meals. I assumed that as the mum was on benefits, she wouldn't have much money.

They have 2 horses and she spends a lot of the time with them. We have a mortgage and after all the bills are paid we don't have enough to keep one let alone 2 horses! Comes across as sour grapes, doesn't it? Sorry but

[dreamingofsun]

would be really interesting to see who's pro and against this and whether or not they receive benefits. i'd bet money on the against party not being on benefits and the pro receiving them

[QuintessentialShadow]

Hully, one works in a local shop. Her dh is a bus driver. They were renting privately, managed to get a council house, managed to persuade the council that they did NOT want a council property on a council estate, so the council allocated them a private tenancy, in a 3 bed house on a new built estate (not council) where houses sell for 500k upwards.... She is quite proud of her achievement. They also own their own home overseas, which is yielding rental income. So, two working adults, with two children, with rental income from a house overseas, is getting a brand spanking new 3 bed house on a prestigious estate, all on the tax payers money. But hey, live and let live, eh?

[Hullygully]

I wish she'd just bloody ask her.

But that wouldn't give the mean sneaking little thrill that shopping her would provide.

[worraliberty]

From what the OP has written, this lady HAS COMMITTED A CRIME and so has her partner

Ok, could you please point out from what the OP has said, where you think a crime has been committed?

[Hullygully]

What about her yacht?

[BupcakesandCunting]

"I suggested the list Bups but the OP didn't respond. Maybe she's writing one "

Sorry babs, I only read about two posts before losing my rag and posting.

[QuintessentialShadow]

I dont know if they have a yacht. They have two cars.

[SuePurblybilt]

Then I think you'd lose a lot of money dreamingofsun

[Hullygully]

I'm not on benefits (because I'm extraordinarily rich) and I am pro love and just asking the wretched horse owning woman.

[Hullygully]

Perhaps one car is like Chitty Chitty and sails?

That's not good enough for me to eat the computer.

[TenderlyLovinglyByAGoat]

when is it fraud though? If he stays in the house and they have sex? If he stays for some other reason (to help with the children? Because they are still friends but are not having sex?)

think dwp should just install CCTV in the homes of single parents, sorry single mothers, to make sure they remain chaste?

[Witchofthenorth]

Oooh can I do caps too? THEY DO NOT IN THE REAL SENSE OF THE WORD LIVE TOGETHER....IT IS NOT FRAUD! A very clever working of the system maybe, but not fraud. HTH.

[SuePurblybilt]

Noooo, Bups my lovey I'm not fussed, I am ever hopeful of a list emerging. I shall add to it:

pens and paper (for writing grateful thanks)
Basic brand food
Darning needles
Copy of 'she were poor but she were humble' for reference

[noddyholder]

Your taxes also pay for people to snoop on these fraudsters so let them do that and get on with your own life.

[littlemisssarcastic]

Maybe the people who are so bothered about benefit claimants appearing to have a better standard of living than they do themselves, even though they are working possibly full time should take heed of a few things.

Namely...people on benefits never ever have a better standard of living at the tax payers expense..it is all an illusion..if you see someone on benefits appearing to live to a higher standard than you..you are clearly imagining it.

People on benefits deserve to have as much as, if not more than working people. This is because they have had such a hard time that they deserve it just because of the hard time they have had. The mother you are talking about OP is only on just over £250 a week after her rent and council tax are paid in full!!! That is chicken feed tbh.

A mother with 3DC on benefits will rightly be receiving over £250 a week on top of rent and council tax, and could well be getting much more in child maintenance, and why should her DC suffer because she doesn't work or want to share her life with her DP?

Working people who pay taxes should divert their attention to bankers/companies avoiding tax and the various other ways the govt spend taxpayers money and turn a blind eye to the benefit dependency culture, since life on benefits is so shit.

No one actually knows anyone who is claiming benefits and doesn't have to use brighthouse or prepayment meters to make ends meet.

Single mum on benefits with 3DC is only on just over £250 a week and full rent and council tax!! This is clearly not enough and no one should expect her to work or move her DP in full time to support herself instead of expecting the tax payer to support her.

[Hullygully]

Perhaps she has sex with the horses? How do we feel about that?

[TheRealTillyMinto]

i dont care if they are a couple or not - it the father has enough money to fund horses he should pay more for the basic cost of his family and the tax payer pay less.

[QuintessentialShadow]

Excuses Hully!
You can eat your mouse instead! I will be ok with that.

[Witchofthenorth]

I am not on benefits BTW for those who are interested :)

[BupcakesandCunting]

Oh God, Hully.

[Hullygully]

yars, buppy?

[Olderyetwilder]

Actually the list leaves out stuff like replacement rugs, repairs to tack, new headcollars, fly spray, hoof oil and so on and on and on. And then there's the cost of transporting the buggers half way across the county early in the morning to go and knock down a couple of fences.

But you can do it (relatively) cheaply by making do and mending. We are skint since we've had 4 horses, but we've never been happier and it is lovely to ride out as a family, play contentedly with the horses for a few hours, then home for large dinner (happy memories of yesterday)

[BupcakesandCunting]

TillyMinto, how do you know that the father pays for the horses at all? Unless I have missed a post saying otherwise, which stands a chance, some other benefactor may be funding the bloody fucking horses.

My mum was a single mum in the '80s. On benefits! I used to totter off to ballet lessons every saturday morning. They were expensive. I wonder if my mum was being dissected (behind her back) by "friends"? My granny paid for my lessons, though. Shit happens.

[LEMONAIDE]

I think the horse is really a side issue here isnt it (and I agree would rather the income stolen from me fraudulently were spent on this that on a pit bull or crate of magners - being facetious) I think the horse is the straw that broke the camels back in the eyes of the op as horses are seen as something that only the better off have.

If you suspect benefit fraud is going on then report them, if its not they will be cleared and if it is you will have done us all a favour.

We have this weird attitude that reporting suspected benefit fraud is somehow "dibbing", like when we were at school, but if you saw someone walk up and take your neighbours car then reporting that is somehow different it isnt...theft is theft.

[BupcakesandCunting]

Sex with horses, Hully.

I don't know how I feel about having that image foisted upon me before midday on a monday.