mum on benefits can afford to keep her dds 2 horses

[jugofwildflowers]

This is a lovely mum by the way. She has never married but been with the same partner for 25 years and they have 3 dc. He works and has another home but stays in family home often, although because she is 'single' and on benefits, she gets everything paid for and her dc have free school meals. I assumed that as the mum was on benefits, she wouldn't have much money.

They have 2 horses and she spends a lot of the time with them. We have a mortgage and after all the bills are paid we don't have enough to keep one let alone 2 horses! Comes across as sour grapes, doesn't it? Sorry but

So, is benefits fraud ok?

I find it extremely strange to see benefit fraud being condoned. Is it ok that the government is paying out billions a year to people with second homes in France, yachts, and what have you? And the result is that the country is so overstretched that the solution is to start taking away benefits, which will hit people who actually needs them hard.

I think benefit fraud should be reported. If people dont commit fraud, they shouldnt be worried, should they?

If the people in this country started claiming for the benefits they were entitled to,we would have a much larger bill than the one for fraudulent claims.

The amount in unclaimed benefits is larger than the fraud bill.

Who are these people, Quint? With second homes etc? Do they live anywhere outside the pages of the DM?

Some parents, especially if they grew up with horses, see a horse or a pony as an 'essential' for a child. Like books or wooden toys

And a big YES to posters saying that paying for horses is nicer than paying for tellies, bombs, bankers or other useless articles.

No one knows the facts here of how this is financed etc.

The benefits bill is one fortieth that of the tax dodged by large corporations.

I don't condone benefit fraud at all, but I think tax avoidance/evasion by the mega wealthy costs the country far more

Hully, I rather it gets to people who actually needs it. And I dont think the benefits budget is linked with the budget for war efforts.

It would be interesting if it turned out that the proportion of people who gets benefits are actually in such good circumstances that they would not be eligible. Imagine the surplus that could be used on childrens centres, sure start clinics, etc......

Indeed.

It's never good enough, is it?

The "benefitz scumm" spend their free money on big tellys/Nike/pitbulls on chains, the hard-working people of Britain say me no likey. They spend their money on a nice, wholesome past-time like hosses and shit their spleens out over that too.

Look, we need a list of acceptable things to spend benefits money on. I'll start.

-Own-brand food
-Whole fruit, definitely no pre-cutted up stuff
-A whip to self-flagelate

The indeed was to Older.

Quint, if you can introduce me to one, just one, person with a second home in France and a yacht who is on benefits, I will eat my computer.

From what the OP has written, this lady HAS COMMITTED A CRIME and so has her partner. I just don't understand why anyone thinks benefit fraud is ok. Fraud is fraud, whether committed by an individual on a modest income, a millionaire, or by a multi-national.

-Books
-Wooden toys
-Sewing machine
-Knitting wool

They do Hully, there was a nice telly programme on them too. Three of them.

COMMITTED A CRIME

Hurray!

The CAPS HAVE COME OUT

In my family there are two benefits cheats. they arent the Daily Mail. on has been reported by another family member.

the one reported owns half of a rental property. he pays the rent to his mum -who gives it to him.

The thing with that list is, it should be called "How to look after a horse properly"

I'm sure there are many people who cut costs and don't do all the things in that list.

Either way, I still don't see a shred of evidence here that the lady is committing any kind of benefit fraud.

I suggested the list Bups but the OP didn't respond. Maybe she's writing one

Report them. If they are doing nothing wrong then they hae nothing to lose. I assume that if the benefits are stopped for investigation the the husband will support them, so there will be no harm done if they are not committing fraud.

And to whoever is going on about them having two lots of bill to pay, no, they probably don't have two sets of bills to pay if she is getting Council Tax benefit and her rent paid.

Sickening.

Stands by with Gaviscon - ram causes heartburn

Oh yes but corporate fraud is the naice face of fraud so we sit back and lap that one up. After all, the naughty bankers aren't spending their ill-gotten pennies on plasma tellies or 8 Ace. It's the mindless evil soap-dodging fucksticks spending OUR TAXES on buy-now-pay-later shite that we need to stamp on.

It really is.

Nataion, I initially thought that, although if he genuinely doesn't ever live there, has his own home, doesn't share bills, doesn't live as a family, it isn't fraud, but you would have to be incredibly careful to monitor all that if he is the father and the partner. And, why would he not be contributing to the household finances? He should be, that's the whole point (and if he's paying for the horse, but I'm not sure if that counts as a household expense!)