to think that people in food courts should clear their rubbish away

[workshy]

went to my local shopping centre tonight, ended up staying longer than anticipated so decided to eat there

got food with 2x DDs, went to find an empty table and all the empty ones were covered with rubbish with one member of staff trying to keep on top of it

there are about 20 bins on this food court -how difficult is it to put your stuff in the bin ffs????

I ended up clearing a table myself for us to sit down -when we had finished eating DD2 took our stuff to the bin I'm not advocating child slavery, she enjoys doing it strange child and the man cleaning up went to help her and said thank you so enthusiastically, it was as if she was the ONLY person who had put their rubbish in the bin all day!

In rearranging I lost the "that I have seen/used" from after 'place'. I need caffeine.

Do people throw their rubbish down on the street too so that somebody can be kept in a job picking it up?

Mumbling - see my previous post.

This is not a restaurant. It is an attached communal seating area. All that is left at the end is litter, and it is the norm to throw away litter.

In a restaurant, places are cleared because you sit there for more than one course, and you have things like real knives forks plates and glasses which are reused. Even in a greasy spoon.

It all comes down to how you see yourself in shared spaces. Some people do think there will always be someone to clear up after them. There isn't anything that can be done about it.

Fair dos mumbling, the word "nasty" was perhaps a bit strong

But if I was in a busy place and knew that other people would be using the same table more or less straight after me, I wouldn't knowlingly leave my crap everywhere for them to sit down to. Sometimes the cleaners aren't about because they're busy on the till or something.

Yes I know some families and individuals are busy, but to put your crap in the bin only takes a minute, tops.

Honestly, I need something else to get het up about at 9.40am on a Saturday morning. Adieu.

I always thought the twenty or so huge black bins placed strategically around the seating area was a pretty good indication that you bin your rubbish.

I'm of the school of thought that people are employed to clean away rubbish. Let them do it.

Just glad we don't have any food courts within hours of here, it sounds revolting on all fronts...

Or they could be for the staff to put rubbish in. How do you know, if there's no sign?

"I always thought the twenty or so huge black bins placed strategically around the seating area was a pretty good indication that you bin your rubbish."

Yes, really. Why should people have to automatically know these things?

And as for all those "oh I didn't realise you were meant to put your tray away" or "well I've never done it because I've never seen a sign telling me to do it" comments: Really?

But Towndon the staff in these places, circulate amongst those bins PUTTING RUBBISH IN THEM! If SOME people want to help them then fair enough...that's nice...I do myself SOMETIMES...but other times I dont because I have 2 DC who take up my attention and then I leave it for the STAFF who are paid to do it.

I think you've misread my post, Mumbling, I agree with you.

Oh I see... actually I was quoting an earlier poster.

Pagwatch, the go and fuck themselves was aimed at posters who appear to consider that levels of education and attitudes to cleanliness are somehow linked. It's not really about the trays, that was just the vehicle in which these repulsive views arrived.

The two posters concerned clearly associate what they consider to be negative and unclean behaviour with being uneducated. There's no other reason for them to mention lack of education in the context which they did. None at all. That's completely and utterly disgusting. I make absolutely no apology for dealing with that kind of snobbery in the most appropriate way possible.

Right so if you and your family finally managed to track down a free table in a busy food court and it was covered in rubbish what would you do then? Well, in the absence of a cleaner in that 2 minute time-frame, you'd have to clear it away yourself, wouldn't you?

And do people really need signs telling them to show some consideration for others? Do you not know how to do it otherwise?

YANBU. Fast food staff are there to wipe down the tables, not to clear your crud.
I used to work in McD's as a student and almost every day people would come up and say "Am I supposed to clear my table?" Yes. "Well I'm going to leave it here and make you do it instead, ha ha". And flounce out. It was either teenage boys with girlfriends to impress or well-dressed thirty something women. And it was always the older women who would do a cats-bum mouth and tell you they were keeping you in employment.

I think that's unfair, manky. I'd never drop litter in the street, on public transport or anywhere else. But something that looks like a cafe/restaurant is going to be more of a grey area, hence the need for obvious instructions - particulary for those who rarely go to fast food venues.

"And do people really need signs telling them to show some consideration for others?"

Honestly it's one of the most baffling things I've encountered since moving to the UK (from abroad...ok, the States) There are no specific food court/fast food restaurant trash attendants in US fast food places. It is assumed that everyone clears their table and tosses away their rubbish, etc, and it gets done. It seems like a simple expectation that people not act like total slobs.

Of course the trouble with conditioning people to leave trash on tables is that it spreads all over the place---case in point, the secondary school students who leave their piles of McDonalds bags all over the green areas outside the Mall often steps away from the actual rubbish bin. But I suppose why would they throw their own rubbish away when nobody has ever modeled that behaviour for them?

But Halbanoo the "rule" is never enforced in these places s as someone else said it is a grey area....people like me, who do not eat in these places much genuinely don't think it's expected.....I never knew! Not till my Aussie friend told me....but I still maintain the right to leave it there...it is NOT the same as leaving in a park....it''s in the foodcourt or the fast food outlet and they MUST keep ther tables clear.

It is nice if people clear it but I wont judge those who do not....they have paid to eat in that place...they don't have to do half the staffs job!

Towndon I'm honestly not having a go, what I'm saying is I wouldn't look around for a sign to tell me whether I should clean up after myself, that's all. I just do it out of habit. I could probably do with taking my own advice at home

But I'm also the kind of mug (scuse the pun) who sometimes takes my empty glass back to the bar, or my empty coffee mug back to the counter. More fool me.

AND I would LOVE to know if all of these people who clear up their fast food cartons also take ALL of their plastic glasses to the bar when they're at an event?

Ah! x posts with Manky! My DH does that Manky...but when n the past I worked in bars set up at concerts hardly anyone brought the plastic glasses back or binned them....same in the theatre I worked at...nice West End Venue...plastic glasses...all dumped on the tables and shelves. I never moaned though...they were out to relax....they weren't thinking of putting all the plastic glasses away for my convenience were they?

No I'm sure they weren't mumbling, I must say I would (finally) draw the line at taking a plastic glass back at a concert!

But why? What's the difference? What if the shows at the interval and you all go for a drink...do you just dump it or put it in the bin? Why?

"But why? What's the difference?": A meal on a tray in a food court- which I assume would not be as crowded as a concert venue- would be scooped up and into a bin, the location of which I could easily walk to, as opposed to walking my empty cider cup to a bin at the side of the O2 Arena. Yes I hold my cups until the end and turf them into the bin, not back to the bar because they don't want plastic cups back do they?

I realise I am in the minority there but, whatever.

"What if the shows at the interval and you all go for a drink...do you just dump it or put it in the bin? Why?": I put it in the bin because I don't want to put it on the floor for someone to trip over. And yes I still manage to have a good time, relax and get pissed.

I don't believe anybody doesn't know the drill in MacDonalds.

Some people are just lazy gits. And saying you're creating jobs would be funny if it wasn't so vile.