to ask why we still change the times on the clocks

[auntiepicklebottom2]

as the title says.

We can't have BST all year round because we are in the GMT timezone which is related to our position on the globe.

Yes, what Arthur just said.

Forgetting the time change, there are plenty of people in the US who live in one timezone and cross into another to work. They just keep two clocks.

And, as I said, there are 2 states I can think of, just off the top of my head, that don't even observe the time change. People manage just fine.

It's an hour. It's not that hard to adapt, FFS.

Or are the UK population too dim to figure it out, which seems to be the implication.

why is the arguement not "why do the scots need to change their clocks in the spring, just to suit the english"

since we're starting to get petty and ridiculous

I don't see what's wrong with the current system.

I've been looking forward to the clocks going back, so much easier to get up with the light. Don't mind coming home in the dark as I'm already awake then.

When you cross a border on the continent you show passports etc, do you want to introduce border controls too, bigtillymint, so you don't have to change your clock.

The system is to benefit England too by more hours of sun in the spring.

Easy to forget when putting boot into Scotland though.

I think too many posters imagine we run around wearing kilts chasing those bloody haggis, that always manage to out run us

Why not?

But changing the clocks does not give us more or less hours of light/dark. It changes the time of the day at which those hours occur.

And as for allowing Scotland to change and england not to...how ridiculous.so someone from berwick would just drive along the road and have to put their clock forward/back an hour?

It works ok in the rest of the world. Imgine driving across the states.

Scotland has devolved and the discussions are a foot to keep BST if Scotland agrees. Which would be all very nice of them. Apart from the fact the entire world plots its time from GMT. But there we go.

Ssd: the argument seems to be evolving into: why don't the scots change to BST all year round to suit the English, inconsiderate bastards that they are.

I personally loathe the clocks going forward. You lose an hour's sleep and people always forget and are late. But for some reason all the complaints come in October when we go back to 'normal'.

YABU its a lovely cold but sunny morning up here in Scotland for a change, dd1 came into my room at 730 and announced there was no way she was going to school in the dark on Tuesday morning, so I am happy they have changed.

More precisely, it's to suit the southern English too.

I'm with Tyler on this. I'm glad they change. I hate the mornings being dark. I know they will be again soon but leaving the house in the dark and returning in it is really depressing.

I don't really see why we can't just stay on GMT...

Can't be added to engage with this stupid petty anti scots crap.

Scotland has devolved parliament, not gained independence.

Can't be arsed either

Unfortunately the light mornings don´t last that long.

Here in Germany school starts at 8-children leave at 7.30, so it´s not that long before they´re going in the dark.

Then when they have until 4, they´re coming home in the dark as well!

And free Uni tuition?

I thought Scotland was moving towards independence? I'm sure I heard it on the news....

As a child in Glasgow, I remember both going to school and returning in the dark was a prominent feature of winter. And it often didn't get all that light in between.

Yes, I might as well pick up some free tuition while I'm out.

But the time during the right part of the year is the RIGHT time. We are now, as of today, on Greenwich Mean Time.

What we were on yesterday was the "fake" time - British Summer Time.

"during the winter part of the year"

I wouldn't have a problem with not changing the clocks - I'm in Scotland and in the winter the days are so short I can't see that it would make much difference.

Statistics show that most accidents happen in the evening, not in the morning when children are going to school. It starts getting dusky from about 3pm, so people travelling home from work at 5pm or 6pm are doing it in the dark no matter what they've done to BST!

Likewise, in the summer the daylight hours are so long (it's light at about 4.30am and not dark til about 11pm) that I can't see that tinkering around the edges of that would affect anyone's day.

It's become a political issue: Alex Salmond will want Scotland to do what suits Scotland best; David Cameron wants Scotland to be on the same time as the rest of the UK as he doesn't want Scotland to move any further away than it already has.

Honestly, I don't understand all this resentment about Scotland. If you want free prescriptions and free university tuition, you can just move to Scotland. You don't have to be Scottish to get them, just resident in Scotland. Similarly, Scots who are not resident in Scotland (like me) don't get them.