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AIBU?

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To think friends DD shouldn't be driving these children around?

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Bohica · 28/10/2011 21:14

My friends daughter passed her driving test last week. She went for a job interview today at a local childrens nursery and was offered a job which she starts on Monday.

One of her duties is to do school runs in her own vehicle (she has buisness car insurance) for breakfast and after school club at the nursery.

Myy friend thinks this is perfectly acceptable as do the staff at the nursery, they are aware she only passed her test last week.

I'm Hmm that they think this is ok and if I had a child at this nursery I wouldn't want an inexperienced driver taking my children to and from school.

AIBU?

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CustardCake · 29/10/2011 22:41

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Abra1d · 30/10/2011 09:35

So all those insurance companies who charge higher premiums for people who've just passed as compared with people who have years of no-claims bonuses are just wrong?

sensuallettuce · 30/10/2011 09:41

To the poster who said they have taken their LO on their driving lessons Shock - I think your instructor is breaking some kind of law there - my ex husband is a driving instructor.

To the OP - she can drive legally and has passed her test - not sure if I would be too happt about it as a parent though.

RedHelenB · 30/10/2011 09:44

I don't think there is any law prohibiting learner drivers to take passengers

4madboys · 30/10/2011 09:45

as long as she has the right kind of insurance i think its fine, i dont drive but was learning a while ago, after having kids so i would have driven with them in the car straight after passing my test.

i also went out in our car with dp watching me and practised, again with our children in the car.

and i think you can take a child when having lessons as long as they are in the correct car seat etc, it came up as i got preg whilst having lessons and we discussed it with regards to bfeeding etc and my instructor seemed to think it would be fine as long as i didnt think i would be distracted. as it was i stopped learning once i had my baby as i just didnt feel up to it and money dictated i had to :( i will get back onto it at some point.

my dp works for ss, he has a business license and as he works in a childrens home he regularly drives the children in our car and also the homes car, they asked if he had a full driving license for the job but i am not sure if there were any stipulations on how long he had been driving for, i may ask him when he gets home from work!

sensuallettuce · 30/10/2011 09:46

I don't think the instructor would be covered (insurance wise) to have a minor in the car while conducting a lesson.

tyler80 · 30/10/2011 09:55

I think she's probably insured to drive, I think the nursery are probably leaving themselves liable should anything happen.

I used to work in an education setting where occasionally we'd have to transport children (but the job wasn't transporting children). My employer insisted on a minimum age (21) and minimum of a year's driving experience. Before you were allowed to drive anyone you also had to have your driving observed.

I'd expect any commercial organisation where employees sometimes have to transport children to have similar rules tbh.

Entirely different situation to transporting your own/friend's children imo.

4madboys · 30/10/2011 10:06

i think it would depend on the insurance, some policies would allow it or else my instructor wouldnt have been willing to do it.

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WilsonFrickett · 30/10/2011 20:37

If she's only 18, is she fully qualified? Because in my DS old nursery, if they hadn't passed a certain level of their qualifications they weren't allowed to be in sole charge of even a small number of children, let alone be in charge in a car. Hmm I bet the parents don't know about this...

cat64 · 30/10/2011 23:11

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lesley33 · 30/10/2011 23:41

I'm not sure what I think of this. But it is perfectly possible to get business insurance for transporting passengers,including children, as soon as you have passed your test. I know as I passed my test 2 years ago and immediately got this insurance - and it cost very little extra.

This insurance wouldn't cover injury to passengers, although if a driver was negligent, the nursery would be responsible for paying out.

ToothbrushThief · 31/10/2011 08:01

I' struggling with the number of people focusing on insurance. So if your LO is involved in a crash due to inexperienced driver is it ok as long as they are insured?

I agree the insurance issue is an importnat one because they almost validate her right to drive in this role but a full risk assessment of the driving (as described above) is surely the preferable action

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ToothbrushThief · 31/10/2011 08:53

custard - I don't disagree with your comments -they are very valid

I think what has been proposed is a risk assessment.

If this was my workplace I'd expect the risk assessment to at least say the more experienced driver ...drives. They must have workers who didn't just pass their test last week.

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