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to feel shocked at the coverage of Gaddafi's death?

267 replies

IvySedaiballs · 20/10/2011 18:56

I don't think she should have been killed like that. IMO he should have been captured, tried and then hanges or whatever. they had him, alive. apparently he was begging for mercy.
now he is dead and can not answer for his vile crimes.

none of the newscoverage that I have seen has addressed this, everyone is just celebrating. yes, he was a bad man, but this doesn't sit right with me.

also, showing pictures of hos dead body body on the six pm news?!

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Animation · 22/10/2011 11:45

Nasty stuff!!

I picked up a newpaper in Costa yesterday but didn't want to look.

Feels wrong. I skipped the first 3 pages.

MeMySonAndI · 22/10/2011 12:07

TBH I thought the reason of the photographs being out was to show "evidence" that he is really dead to avoid further claims by supporters who may feel tempted to keep going by saying Gaddaffi is still there and active but working from an undisclosed location.

I agree he shouldn't have been killed but, at the end of the day, the man had MANY opportunities to accept defeat and go for a trial and he didn't. As some other person mentioned earlier in the thread, the fact he is killed is sort of closing a door, it is clear from his actions that he wasn't going to be going any other way.

As for the very graphic images.... We are used to have our news "sanitised" (images or words), which make us sometimes think that things are not that bad. I'm not advocating for the inclusion of more morbid "evidence" in the news (far from it, we couldn't bear it) but please be re-assured that if you think what you were shown was gross, the reality is many times far worse.

HerScaryness · 22/10/2011 12:25

I totally agree that the coverage of the death of gadaffi is horrific, there IS no need to see any of that.

In the UK we don't normally see stuff like this, which is absolutely correct. Live in one of these ME countries and you'll see this stuff routinely.

al Jazeera (Arabic) is HIDEOUS, bits of body parts and they don't pixel the gory stuff out as they do on the English speaking channel. That said, even on Al Jazeera English you tend to see more than you would do on UK channels.

Sorry to say, but that particular region is a whole lot more barbaric than we are in the UK.

demonicma · 22/10/2011 17:47

images didn't bother me - they were unpleasant but have no sympathy for the man and a swift death was more than he gave so many of his people. hope Robert Mugabe is next.

Fifis25StottieCakes · 22/10/2011 22:05

i didnt think it is that people are desensitized .

the kids dad refused to watch it and said it was wrong

I had no feeling whatsoever. I didnt think it was sad and certainly didnt think that poor old man,

The reason i think i feel like that is because i have read quite a bit about the things he has done and horrific crimes he has commited.

The kids dad hasnt, i think it changes your thinking. Had i seen an innocent man being beaten to death i probably would have cried. I was quite upset when amy winehouses body was brought out and think of her a victim of drug abuse.

i think people react differently depending on what they know which makes their brain process what their seeing in a different way iyswim

sakura · 23/10/2011 00:12

The way the media turn everything into a circus makes me sick these days. The only news i get is off the internet, mumsnet mostly.

Gaddafi needed to die, (in the cruelest way possible, probably) but yes, filming it for entertainment, live "snuff" as someone said above, has crossed the boundaries of decency.

sakura · 23/10/2011 00:14

I'm curious as to who decides what goes and what doesn't in the media.
It's some guy in the boardroom isn't it. Deciding what millions of people get to watch, or not, depending on his mood that day. How weird.
People don't want to see this. Someone should tell him.

izzywhizzysfritenite · 23/10/2011 00:29

I, for one of many, want to see the world as it truly is sakura, and I will thank you not to speak for me and allow me the right to exercise my own choice as to what choose to read or not, and what I choose to see and watch.

gaelicsheep · 23/10/2011 00:41

izzywhizzy - you have access to the internet and you can Google no end of gross things to satisfy your need to see the world for the disgusting place that it is. I don't see why those things should be foisted on the rest of us.

suzikettles · 23/10/2011 00:45

It all smacks strongly of rubbernecking tbh. The same instinct that causes pile-ups at the scene of the accident.

A real-live summary execution! Roll up for the latest pictures of the dead man!

The papers are printing it because it's selling (presumably). Full colour on the front page and then see inside pages 2,4,5,6,7,8 for more stunning images.

Rolling news means that we are exposed to these images every 15 minutes. Does it still shock the 5th time? The 10th time? The 100th time? Does it roll on and on because there's anything new? No. He's still dead (but just incase you didn't catch it the first time here are some pictures of the corpse to titillate you.).

What happened in Libya is for the Libyans and I don't have a clear opinion on in, albeit I'm anti-capital punishment, but it's our news and it makes me all a bit sick.

Patopopo · 23/10/2011 01:53

He lived by the sword and died by it. That man was responsible for the tortured and murdered of thousands of people during his 42 year dictatorship. I have zero sympathy for him. I only hope that in the brief moment between his capture and execution that he experienced sheer terror, fear and suffering, like the kind that he inflicted on others during his presidency. Good riddance.

StickyGhost · 23/10/2011 13:24

I personally don't care, agree with patopopo; good riddance. Better he is dead than alive to create some media circus and some expensive trial he would likely have turned into a publicity opportunity and a farce.
I think many here are judging by western ideas of justice, which is naiive. Only those who suffered under his regime should have been able to say what was appropriate, and it seems they are happy with the result.
And if you don't want to see his body then don't bloody look! How is this evil man's dead body worse than looking at the babies starving to death in africa???

begonyabampot · 23/10/2011 17:35

It is horrible and unsettling and it should be. What about the holocaust, should we no longer show the horrific pictures, without them and the movie footage of bodies being bulldozed into graves I really doubt people would have got felt the true enormity of it all if it had been only experienced through words. Same with Vietnam, that picture of the little girl running naked down the road probably made people 'feel' more than if they had been allowed to go on as usual with their nice, safe orderly lives thousands of miles away.

TBH, I think we should have been shown more images about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and told more about the civillians who were killed and hurt - why should we not know the true cost of wars which we were involved in.

I'm not sure about Gaddafi, it is a bit like rubbernecking and I agree that it could have been handled better but it is very difficult to know where to draw the line in these modern times with all, the instantaneous technology we have. Guess 'it's a brave new world' and all that jazz.

A1980 · 23/10/2011 19:55

Just think, the people who shot an injured, unarmed, man and paraded his dead body through the streets are those who are trying to set up a free democratic Libya.

MeMySonAndI · 23/10/2011 20:03

A1980, you can't judge other cultures from the perspective of modern British culture standards.

However you may appreciate by reading your own history that most former empires are doing great nowadays, despite being guilty of even worse atrocities in the past that you can see in Libya nowadays... Hmm

MarthasHarbour · 23/10/2011 20:13

patopopo i couldnt have put it better myself. even my own family, white british non libyan, have been affected by his regime, a close family member was killed by one of his terrorist attacks. for us it was cathartic to see. we derived no pleasure from watching it but felt no sympathy. although i appreciate my perspective on it is rather different.

i agree that the pre watershed images were inappropriate, but allow the adults to make their own minds up.

witepoppy · 03/11/2011 01:41

I know this is "old news" but as a teaching assistant working in an secondary academy school I was absolutely disgusted on many levels - firstly - to have to see the rolling Skynews coverage of Gadaffi's murder at regular intervals throughout the day on the flatscreens dotted throughout the building - secondly - even though I pointed out the inappropriateness of the imagery to 2 senior members of staff the off button did not get used and - thirdly - a year 7 "Christian" pupil cheered and other groups of children were watching in an unguided unsupervised way. Many parents would have no idea of this kind of thing being shown in a school and I sadly wonder how many other so-called teachers allowed this stuff on their school flatscreens without giving a second thought to the offensive barbarity of an alllegedly democratic and internationally sanctionned campaign. Or was it an out of control lynch mob who now emulate Gaddafi's history? I would have hoped we did not stoop to any dubious means because the moral high ground is lost......

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