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Gabriel Aubry calls his ex Halle Berry a ‘’ghetto n****r’’ and refuses to acknowledge his daughter is mixed?

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coldwed · 19/10/2011 12:30

If this is true, he is one vile cunt. If it is not true, he better sue because I for one will never look at him the same way again. This is not the first time he has been accused of racism to Halle. AIBU to wonder why if you really truly believe you're superior would you sleep/ have baby with a black woman?

Did Halle NOT know what type of man he was? racist people ALWAYS slip up. Now she has to share her beautiful daughter with that dirt. Arrgh

Link (this is also reported in other news not just Daily Mail)

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2050749/Halle-Berry-wins-fight-ex-Gabriel-Aubrey-custody-daughter-Nahla.html

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StewieGriffinsMom · 19/10/2011 14:32

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 19/10/2011 14:37

"gettho n**r" is a not just offensive language"... yes that's all it is, and I've been called worse thank you very much.

crazynannawitchbitch · 19/10/2011 14:41

CogitoErgoSometimes To a black person,there really is nothing worse.

ThankyouWankyou · 19/10/2011 17:03

Ooh, I dunno..
What about "House N**r"? Verrrrry insulting to a black person.

HalfTermHero · 19/10/2011 17:11

If true, it is just sickening. Given the hatred towards someone purely because of their skin colour, I can quite see why supervised access is a bloody good idea.

wahwahwah · 19/10/2011 17:18

Horrible man (can't believe he is a model - for what, I ask).

Isn't Halle mixed race herself? Like quite a few 'black' americans and Bob Marley mums was white, wasn't she? Wandeing off the point a bit here... Not sure how this works in the US - Obama describes himself as black (not mixed race) but his mums side is all white. What is the 'one drop' rule? I don't like the sound of it at all...

AmberLeaf · 19/10/2011 17:19

Soupdragon posted what I was going to say. The first I read of this it was about Halle insisting that as she is a black woman [albeit with a white mother] then her daughter too must identify as black.

The EX then responded in turn and now it seems its been twisted into purely him saying the child is white?

I dont know, but from some accounts Halle herself is a bit of a nob too.

wahwahwah · 19/10/2011 17:22

If my DS decided that he was going to describe himself as one race over the other I would kick his arse and tell him that genetically it wasn't possible! Actually he has decided that he is Engligh (we live there) so that's purely a nod to his grandma! You are what you are and one race doesn't cancel out another.

screamingbohemian · 19/10/2011 17:27

Historically the one drop rule referred to attitudes that even very small amounts of non-white ancestry made you non-white.

It is NOT still used in the US (whatever you meant by 'used')

People are free to self-identify. Increasingly people identify as mixed and not just black or white. But it's up to every individual person.

I have not read the article but from what I heard before, both sides were saying very nasty things about each other, as might be expected in a nasty custody fight. It's a trainwreck and I feel very sorry for that poor little girl.

wahwahwah · 19/10/2011 17:40

I am sure it's not meant in a 'good way'. People are free to describe themselves however they like but I would be p-ed off is DS decided that one side or other of the familt 'didn't count'. Didn't Tiger Woods have a go at a journalist that described him as black and said 'what about my mum?'.

People that self absorbed never consider the children.

crazynannawitchbitch · 19/10/2011 19:09

You can prefix it with whatever word you like,ThankyouWankyou..I was actually talking about the 'N' word.

fedupofnamechanging · 19/10/2011 19:42

Halle takes the view in that article that because she is black, then so is her daughter, but facts are facts and her daughter has a half white mother and a white father. She is more white than she is black.

Halle's mother could equally have said "I am white, therefore Halle is white." It wouldn't have made it true though, as she has one white parent and one black one.

Both Halle and her dd are mixed race, no matter what she or Nahla's father has to say on the matter. The judge should tell them both to get a grip and look at what they are doing to their child with this stupid shit. The child is entitled to her whole heritage and shouldn't have to listen to either of her parents negate the value of the 'other side'.

If having a black or white child is so important to these two, then perhaps they should have chosen their partners differently. I can't for the life of me understand why they care so much about her colour.

StewieGriffinsMom · 19/10/2011 19:51

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NotJustKangaskhan · 19/10/2011 19:51

screamingbohemian It may no longer be used legally, but it certainly used on a societal level.

Halle Berry is always referred to as a black/African-American actress. Calling Obama 'mixed-race' is likely to get you laughed at. It has nothing to do with genetics, or a person's parents, it has to do with what you 'pass' as in societies that have such racial issues. I am mixed, but I pass as white and have everything that goes with that. I can self-identify, and do with those that know me, but society will treat me. If I passed as Native, and/or my children did, I would be doing them a great disservice if I didn't teach them how to navigate in a society as they are seen no matter my personal opinions on how horrid it is.

TryLikingClarity · 19/10/2011 19:52

He seems like a right nasty piece of work. Poor child being pushed and pulled emotionally like that :(

troisgarcons · 19/10/2011 20:42

Halle Berry subscribes to the 'one drop' theory - ie one drop of 'black blood', no matter how far back makes you black. She doesn't seem to allow for mixedrace or dual heritage at all

And N has far wider connotations - blacks call each other N -its not a word I like but I hear it every day. What annoys me is blacks can call each other N but all hell breaks loose if a white kid uses the word.

forehead · 19/10/2011 22:12

Troisgarcon....re; use of the N... word.

Your ignorance is astounding.
I personally dislike the use of the N word when black people use it to describe each other. However, i accept that some black people use this word in order to reduce its power. Do not forget that the N word was used by the white slave master. Therefore, a white person using the N word is not the same as a black person using it.
I agree with the posters who suggest that Halle Berry's
daughter will be regarded as black, I am white and my dneph is mixed race(my db's child). My brother regards his son as black, because he realises that despite the fact that my dneph is half white, he will always be regarded as a black man by society. Black people also come in many shades , which can be therefore make it difficult to identify a mixed race person. Beyonce is an example of a black woman, who 'looks' mixed race

crazynannawitchbitch · 19/10/2011 22:19

troisgarcons Black people use the word to negate it's (proposed) power...I thought that was quite well known.

My dcs' are mixed race (white/black),and when I ask them what they see themselves as,they say "black". When I ask why,they say "because that's what society sees me/says I am"

troisgarcons · 19/10/2011 22:28

I'm not ignorant - Im quite widely read as it happens.

I'm well aware that N is used by black people in an attempt to reclaim it - it is just a horrible word (and I dont care who is using it). Much like, I'm not terribly fond of the common usage of 'gay' by the youth to decribe anything thay don't deem to be fashionable. however, the perpetual use of N - especially on the black music channels will just normalise it until it becaomes part of everyday usage.

I am quite a simplistic creature - treat others as you would be wish to be treated. Race or colour or creed rarely registers on my radar. Where I come from the only judgement passed on people is on work ethic. To be consuidered lazy would be the bigest insult - no-one whould give tuppence what colour you are or where you came from.

troisgarcons · 19/10/2011 22:29

Apologies for poor typing

LEMONAIDE · 19/10/2011 22:33

Personally I would take this with a pinch of salt Halle has a history of maligning ex partners and in fact the only one she didnt name and shame is the one who allegedly damaged her hearing years ago (possibly because he was a bigger star than her and could fight back?)

At best she has very dubious taste in men and at worst she's economical with the truth when her relationships break down.

Either way we are unlikely to ever know.

Just remember this is the person who injured someone in an car crash and drove off Hmm

crazynannawitchbitch · 19/10/2011 22:34

I hate the word,too troisgarcons. I wasn't trying to imply you are ignorant Smile

BleedyGhoulzombiez · 19/10/2011 23:58

Cogito wrt your comments on the phrase "ghetto n**r", are you living in a bubble?

MrsStephenFry · 20/10/2011 00:02

I never understand people wittering about celebs as if they are real people. Who gives a fuck what some guy saus to his ex wife about their kid?

FearfulYank · 20/10/2011 06:31

Because they are real people, of course.