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AIBU?

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to be upset at pils even though they are trying to be nice?

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Moulesfrites · 11/10/2011 13:53

think I am being a little irrational here so probably just need a talking to but this has really upset me...

My ds is 8mo. He is ebf, I feed him to sleep at night and he still has a couple of night feeds (at least). He has taken ebm from a bottle but the last time was about 4 months ago as I hate expressing, and he takes water, very reluctatntly, from a doidy cup. I have been on 3/4 nightys out with friends and have left the emb with dh, and dh has been out once or twice too (he is not really fussed about going out tbh) but we have not been out for an evening meal together since ds was born, which we used to do all the time. This doesn't really bother us - we were together for 10 years before ds and did plenty of posh meals and weekends away etc in this time. We have also been on a couple of lovely self catering holidays since ds came with family and friends when everyone has helped with the cooking (including my brother who is a chef), so we do not feel that we have missed out on eating out, socially or gastronomically!!

Anyway, all my mil has done since ds was born has harped on about how she would like to has ds overnight. she mentions it everytime I see her. Last time she was saying that she would like to get dh and I a weekend away for Xmas so that they could have ds, as "hopefully you will have stopped bf by then". She keeps saying "It's such a shame he isn't sleeping through yet or we could have him". I don't really want them to "have him" and I feel they are putting pressure on me to do something I am not yet comfortable with. It is clear from her frequent eye rolling, tutting and head shaking that shje disapproves of the fact that I am still bf and that ds doesn't sleep through. This could be influenced by the fact that she has had both of her granddaughters stay from being just a few weeks old (both ff and great sleepers).

I also am a bit sensitive about her having him, becuase on the first night we came home from hospital with ds, she and fil stayed at our house. It was a generally awful experience. There dog was there sniffing at my lochia, they had cooked coq au vin and we had to eat it at the dining table while 3 day old ds was in his carry cot in another room so the dog couldnt get to him. I really think my first night home should have involved me sitting on the sofa with a slice of pizza in one hand and ds in the other, and still feel resentful about this! To top it all off, that night ds was crying and SHE CAME INTO OUR BEDROOM AND TOOK HIM AWAY!! I have never quite got over this. It has meant whenever they have stayed since or we stayed there, I just don't sleep as I worry she is going to come in again. Also, it has probably contributed to ds being a crap sleeper as I feed him at the slightest peek for fear she will come in and take him off me again! (I do realise this makes me sound crazy!)

Anyway, what has upset me today is that dh rang to say that his fil had been on the phone and they have bought us 2 tickets to see a play on Friday night and booked us a bar meal at a nearby pub, and told dh they are coming to look after ds. I know they think this is a kind gesture, but it got me really upset. I feel that when we do decide to go out and leave ds I want it to be our decision when to do it, not forced upon me by them. I was trying to explain this to dh but it just came out as an incoherent rant and me saying "how dare they presume to decide what kind of play I will like or which pub to go to!". He has now said he will ring and tell then I don't want to go, and I know they will think I am an ungrateful and possessive cow. AIBU to have reacted in this way??

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mrstiredandconfused · 11/10/2011 15:32

Moules I remember your previous post about your first night. Mil overstepped the mark massively, i'm not surprised you're having trouble getting past it. What is fil's take on all this? Could you get dh to talk to him to get mil to back off a bit, at least as a short term option?

In the long term, when you feel strong enough, you need to grow a pair and make your boundaries very clear. It's only when you've done this that there will be any hope of her showing you any respect.

Moulesfrites · 11/10/2011 15:32

Rebecca, yes I am trying to sort the feeding at whimpers and work on self settling. I know we need to have a good few weeks with no house guests or overnight stays!

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willowstar · 11/10/2011 15:39

its awful isn't it, this pressure to go out and leave your baby. I am lucky in that my mum lives on another continant but she is always telling me she wishes she was closer so she could take my daughter for the weekend. I breast fed her to sleep until 2 but she didn't know that!!! what we need more than anything is time as a family, my OH always works weekends as well as every day during the week, the last thing we would want is time alone without her at the moment.

anyway, I don't think you are being unreasonable AT ALL. I breast fed my daughter and I didn't leave her for an evening until she was about 15 months old because she would wake up and need feeding back to sleep. I have only left her that one time and then it was with a friend who I trusted and who knew my little girl well.

you really have to explain that you aren't ready. If you don't you are going to seethe and resent the interferance. I agree though that you do have to do things you aren't comfortable sometimes just for the sake of family harmony. I hate doing it, it isn't in my nature but needs must. so the poster who said you should ask for an hour maybe might be right.

Moulesfrites · 11/10/2011 15:42

TriosgArcons, I know it was a kind gesture but I just feel she has an anterior motive.

My mum has never behaved in the same way as she has. she would never have stayed at our home that night as she knew it was an important time for the three of us, and she had faith in us that we would manage, which mil clearly didn't.

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Moulesfrites · 11/10/2011 15:43

*alterior

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HerScaryness · 11/10/2011 15:45

ulterior Grin

naturalbaby · 11/10/2011 15:47

my oldest is 3 and the only night i've ever spent away from any of them is when dc3 was ill in hospital at 2months old. some people just don't want/need to spend a night away from their kids. i have spoken to mil on several occassions about how i grew up so she now says "i know you never did that as a child" (when she packed her kids of to relatives on a regular basis) so she gets the message that i won't be doing it with my kids. it took a good year at least though to bang on about it for her to get the message!

Moulesfrites · 11/10/2011 15:49

Oh is it herscaryness? Never sure about that one, thanks!

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IsItMeOr · 11/10/2011 15:53

YANBU, while I think this is a gesture intended to be kind and motivated by a strong love for your family, it has clearly missed the mark. A polite decline is entirely appropriate, preferably highlighting that you don't anticipate being ready to leave DS at night for quite some time.

It may not be appropriate for you, but DH and I gave his mum The Good Granny Guide when she became a granny to our DS. She did read it, and take it on board (it's very sensible). She's lovely and I'm a very lucky DIL.

mumofthreekids · 11/10/2011 15:56

Moules, you say your mum 'would never behave this way' but I'm guessing your mum does sometimes do things which annoy you? Never? Really??

It's harder with your MIL, cos you can't say 'Oh mum don't be ridiculous'. So you just quietly fume inside. I'm the same with my MIL. But it's hard for her too if she is genuinely trying to help you and can't seem to get it right.

So much easier to advise someone else than put up with my own annoying MIL!!

mumofthreekids · 11/10/2011 15:58

I agree the Good Granny Guide is excellent. Ironically both my mum and my MIL own it but neither has read it!!

Moulesfrites · 11/10/2011 15:58

Yes mumofthree you're probably right, I would just tell my mum, rather than the silent fuming!

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zipzap · 11/10/2011 16:00

Accept the offer of the meal (I know, I know, bear with me on this!) and tickets from your mil but tell her that you have a fantastic baby sitter that you love and who you trust want to use, you've arranged it all with her, no worries so she doesn't need to trouble herself about babysitting for your ds...

If she hands everything over and is fine about it, then she is genuinely doing this to be nice to you and your dh.

If she has a hairy blue fit and rants about babysitting for your ds, or threatens to take away the offer if she can't babysit then she is effectively reducing herself to forking out money so she can babysit...

Then you can decide if you do want to accept her offer or not - and go out or not! But at least you will see what her intentions are Grin

From what you've written here, my vote is on the hairy blue fits!

MumblingAndBloodyRagDoll · 11/10/2011 16:01

Oh sorry you're suffering from over-helpful MIL! I had one too and I really regret bowing to pressure and letting DD stay there one night...she was 10 months but it still felt FAR to soon.

I would let eiter of them go now...mine are 7 and 3 so it's not that you (or I) are unnaturally clingy....it's just not in our makeup to be away from our babies until they're big enough!

Sorry but on a lighter note....this line "the dog was there sniffing at my lochia" made me Grin I can only tell you to keep smiling and saying "Oh we'll let him stay when he's ready."

Don't let them pressure you!

zipzap · 11/10/2011 16:01

Oh and remember to educate her on the benefits of bf until at least 2 yrs old as advocated by WHO...

Moulesfrites · 11/10/2011 16:02

But they are different, for example, they are around the same age and had their kids at the same time, both dh and I were weaned at 3/4 m and both found the advice to wait til 6 m odd. But my mum just said " he's your baby", pils kept gutting and eye rolling and saying how "ridiculous" it was not to give baby rice at 4 m.

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Salmotrutta · 11/10/2011 16:02

How did it come to pass that your PIL came and stayed O/N when you came home from hospital? Did they just appear?
Or did they suggest it and you agreed? Or did they suggest it and you said no but they did it anyway?

Because however that played out has set the tone I'd imagine.

NinkyNonker · 11/10/2011 16:02

Yanbu. It sounds like she wants 'her turn' at an overnight, which shouldn't be sufficient motivation for changing your feeding habits and going out of your comfort zone.

Moulesfrites · 11/10/2011 16:04

*tutting

Salmo, they were staying there anyway as they live about an hour away and we live in town. If they have meetings, appointments etc they stay at our as it is conveniently located for them. Just happened that one of these meetings coincided with us coming out of hospital.

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CailinDana · 11/10/2011 16:04

Ha I absolutely love zipzap's idea, it's GENIUS!!

Salmotrutta · 11/10/2011 16:09

Ah, I see. Well, most folks would have said "No, no, we'll stay elsewhere!"
Why didn't your DH suggest that they stay elsewhere if you wanted time on your own?
I would have hated that too if it wasn't my choice.

IsItMeOr · 11/10/2011 16:10

DMIL did get her turn at an overnight when DS was a few months old, but at our request and in our home with us. We were just so desperate for sleep as DS really didn't sleep at all well. It's not some sort of offence for a GP to dearly wish for this.

She has often said what a special night it was for her. She also spoke often in the early days about looking forward to when DS will first stay overnight at her house (without us). In the end (because it made me feel stressed) I bit the bullet and said I thought it wasn't going to happen for a few years yet, and she's stopped mentioning it.

It's a good thing that you have family who want to help you and spend time with your DS. You just need to be clear where your boundaries are and accept that it is your job to enforce them. PILs are not going to know by ESP.

jaggythistle · 11/10/2011 16:13

YANBU.

Bloody cheeky to try and send you on a night out!

I think my PIL have worked out after 2 years that not everyone wants to get away from their baby for a 'break' as soon as possible.

They were expecting us to go out for lunch and leave DS with them when he was about 8 days old! I was recovering from a CS and trying to establish bfing when DS had a tongue tie - not really in a dining out mood... :) FIL actually said when he was about 8 days old that we needed to 'get out of our bubble' or some such nonsense. I got many Hmm looks about bfing and not giving DS food till he was about 6mo too.

They do mean well, luckily for us my DN was born a few months later and my BIL and SIL are the polar opposite of us. She was bottle fed straight away and they got to babysit her when she was 3 weeks old and keep her overnight at about 6 weeks old. It took the heat off us a bit!

I think we've gone out without DS les than half a dozen times in his 2 years, but that's what suits us. We are quite lazy and prefer some Wine in the house.

You do just ahve to keep repeating yourself that you don't need or want a break, but thanks for the offer and you'll let them know. It might sink in...

jaggythistle · 11/10/2011 16:17

the first bit was meant to say lunch when he was 10 days old...

2rebecca · 11/10/2011 16:19

1 hour away is no time at all though. I wouldn't expect someone to stay with me if they only lived an hour away. Many people commute that to work each day. If you have just had a baby I presume they aren't of retirement age yet. I'd be encouraging them to go back home after their meetings, unless you particularly want visitors.

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