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AIBU?

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to really not like 'an ADHD child' 'an ASD child' 'a Downs child' 'A SN child'?

74 replies

HelloSweetie · 04/10/2011 22:07

it's a small thing but it gets my goat.

a child has SN or AS or ADHD etc. They are not 'An AS child' or a SN child'.

thats all.

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MangoMonster · 05/10/2011 12:07

Agree with OP.

azazello · 05/10/2011 12:11

My DH is a haemophiliac and would side very much with Kladdaka on this. He is not a person with haemophilia and absolutely definitely not a haemophilia sufferer Hmm.

There is not one 'correct' approach which everybody should adopt, but that people should be sensitive enough to correct themselves when a particular phrase is hurtful or otherwise inappropriate. This goes double for medical staff.

SauvignonBlanche · 05/10/2011 12:12

YANBU, I hate it too.

Hardgoing · 05/10/2011 12:18

See, I would have thought 'person with haemophilia' was fine (obviously as a description where this was relevant).

fluffystabby · 05/10/2011 12:30

I had this discussion 16 years ago when I was looking for a primary school for my son who has a hearing loss.

It's not about the DISABILITY (or what ever the PC term is now) it's about their ABILITY - it's about the person and what they can do not what they can't and sticking any kind of a label on a child is just wrong.

DS1 was known by a nickname which would have seemed racist to an outsider but was bestowed on him by a boy from that race (hard to explain without offending all and sundry) neither he nor the boy who gave him the nickname were offended it wasn't meant nasty it was just funny between the two of them and commented on an aspect of his colouring.

And it WAS funny when the name got shouted at the sports club he went to and he turned round and the two boys who were that ethnicity didn't ties self in knots trying to be PC

Oblomov · 05/10/2011 12:54

I think its all a bit too PC. And I don't really care.
I have diabetes. I am diabetic.
Ds1 is sn. Has sn. Is autistic. has Aspergers.
whatever you want to call it. I don't really care.

Sevenfold · 05/10/2011 12:58

yanbu(although I know that the asd child thing is different)
there is no such thing as an downs child or a sn child.
see the person first

Riveninabingle · 05/10/2011 13:01

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SauvignonBlanche · 05/10/2011 13:03

I don't think it's a small thing though.

youarekidding · 05/10/2011 13:11

I totally agree Grin

I work in special ed, its a school for pupils with SLD/PMLD. I hate it when people say SLD school. I mean the school doesn't have SLD but there are pupils in it who do. Wink

VeryLittleGravitas · 05/10/2011 13:47

Thhe use of the word 'Normal' to describe a NT child gets my goat far more then 'autistic child' vs 'child with autism'.

ragged · 05/10/2011 13:53

I don't mind if people are just using the words quickly in a casual context with obvious relevance and without obvious prejudice. In contrast, it annoys me that I would have to type out (for instance) "baby with Downs Syndrome" each time I wanted to say "baby with Downs Syndrome" rather than shorthanding to "DS baby".

I have RSI in my hands which flairs up sporadically and can make everything I do with my hands (like typing) very painful, btw. So it's mostly just a typing thing for me, speaking I could say the long-version as long as I'm not exhausted (DC are always making fun of me for tripping over my words because I seem to have mild oral dyspraxia and can't speak clearly easily at all when I'm tired, is a real struggle to say anything clearly then).

Dawndonna · 05/10/2011 15:23

Everyone here uses the term 'Aspie'. They only get hacked off when it's described as an illness. Cue lecture on the wiring of the brain and how co-morbids could possibly be described as an illness, but not Aspergers.

MorrisZapp · 05/10/2011 15:33

Agree with Onagar.

RhinoKey · 05/10/2011 15:38

My DS is an Autistic Child. He isnt a child with Autism because he cant be without it.

ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 05/10/2011 15:40

My eldest sister introduces me as 'this is cheese, the one who has the 2 autistic kids'

It drives me fucking batty, last time I ended up snapping back 'I don't remember changing my name to cheese 2 autistic kids'

She knows it pisses me off, maybe a punch in the face alongside the sarcasm will drive things home. Wink

keepingupwiththejoneses · 05/10/2011 15:45

I think it is personal preference. DS2 has ADHD and DS3 is Autistic. I don't know why but that is they way I say it. Maybe it does have something to do with DS2 just happens to have ADHD, but DS3's Autism is who he is IYKWIM. DS2's ADHD doesn't affect his personality but DS3's autism does.
I do hope that makes sense!

Riveninabingle · 05/10/2011 15:55

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RhinoKey · 05/10/2011 16:00

I agree Riven - if DS wants to be known as a person with autism once he gets a bit bigger and more aware, thats fine to me.

Riveninabingle · 05/10/2011 16:03

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Sevenfold · 05/10/2011 16:10

riven, come on, it takes too much effort to write baby with downs syndrome, so they have to put downs baby, same with sn children, or say it is pc gorne mad.

purplepidjinawoollytangle · 05/10/2011 16:12

Clients I work with are "Person with..."

DNiece has Autism - because she is pre-verbal and that's how her Mum describes it.

It's very very difficult for the outsider to judge, because of the different personal preferences. I have a long official first name but detest it and am known by a shortened version. On first contact, I simply point out to folk that I prefer the shortened version. I would find it offensive if they then ignored that preference, but not the first time they used it.

I wouldn't dare refer to people with AS as Aspies, unless told specifically by a person that that was their preferred term (I have met very few people who like it, MN is the only place!!)

Marne · 05/10/2011 17:02

I have one dd with AS and one with ASD, i either say 'she has ASD/AS' or 'she's Autistic'

She is not ASD,Autism or Aspie, to say someone 'is asd' is just odd Hmm, ASD/Autism is a diagnosis, a huge spectrum of different problems (my dd's are not the whole spectrum they are just in the spectrum).

WilsonFrickett · 05/10/2011 17:06

I think we use a lot of shortcuts on here and that is usually fine. I would never normally say something like 'my DS has SN' in real life. Apocalypse that would make me Angry too, because it's saying 'this is how I describe you when you're not here'.

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