AIBU about selfish arseholes parking on zigzag lines in front of school?

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WHY do folk do this? Why do they do it even though there are endless signs around saying not to do it? How unspeakably stupid and selfish can a person be. Yesterday at my dds school there were about 9 cars top to tail on the zig zags. Happily, parking attendant zipped up and ticketed several.

Has any one successfully managed through the school or other means to get people to think about the safety of their own kids and others?

Grinding my teeth

"So why are people on the zigzags then"

Because they are lazy, arrogant twats, they don't care about the safety of other children and the law doesn't apply to them.

Soup This is where I came in about twenty-nine hours ago . . . you are so right.

I haven't said I don't want those things. And upthread, I have also stated that the responsibility for creating carparks lies with the school/council - not me! But I'll give some suggestions anyway.

I am happy for neighbouring houses to be pulled down and turned into carparks. Expensive, but no particular objection from me.

I also think that depending on playground/field size, a section could be done in tarmac for the staff cars to leave the roads clearer for pickups/dropoffs.

I know of a school which is surrounded by farmland both sides and behind with a road at the front. It would seem pretty simple to buy part of a field and put a carpark there, yet the school persist on sharing a carpark with a church 2 streets away and forcing children and parents to walk down a "pavement" which is too narrow for a buggy and then to cross a road which is so dangerous a crossing patrol is needed, together with a speed camera. (Speed cameras can only be put in places where at least 2 serious accidents have occurred in our county.)

Another potential solution is for schools to have staggered dropoffs and pickups to allow people to share any available parking spaces.

Drastic problems require drastic solutions! All the non-drastic solutions haven't solved the problem.

I'd like to say, in the defense of big cars and their drivers, that I drive an enormous feck-orf Audi (it is wonderful) and I would never dream of parking on the zig-zags/double parking/blocking anyone else's road/drive/access or in any other way causing obstruction or potential risk to anyone else's health/wellbeing/harmonious existence.

SoupDragon Sat 01-Oct-11 20:34:12
"So why are people on the zigzags then"

Because they are lazy, arrogant twats, they don't care about the safety of other children and the law doesn't apply to them.

You can slate them as lazy and arrogant BUT that is not getting to the root of why they do it. THERE ARE NO PARKING FACILITIES!!

There's plenty of parking in the surrounding residential area to our primary, yet the zig-zags are still stacked with cars.

I am happy for neighbouring houses to be pulled down and turned into carparks. Expensive, but no particular objection from me.

The homeowners might have another opinion.

I also think that depending on playground/field size, a section could be done in tarmac for the staff cars to leave the roads clearer for pickups/dropoffs.

I suppose we should be glad that you agree that some of them might be too small . . . Sorry blue but you are losing touch with reality.

As we are talking schools I suggest you write one hundred lines:

I cannot expect to park my car every sodding place I want to go.
I cannot expect to park my car every sodding place I want to go.
I cannot expect to park my car every sodding place I want to go.

The exercise might get the message through.

YOUR kids' safety is nowhere NEAR as important as SOME peoples' time, obviously.

I've found that if ONE person parks on zig zags, everyone else who drives up and sees them there seems to think it's allowed, and all do the same.

School and PCSOs regularly patrol but only ever give friendly advice.

I've taken pics of people i see doing it day after day, and it usually works to stop them, just seeing their picture being taken, I've never followed it up as I've never photographed the same car twice

err Andrew, might I remind you that it is NOT me who is parking on zigzags! I have never ever gone to school and parked on zigzags, but I have witnessed it every single day for the past 3 years.

No blue but it is you who wants houses pulled down and the like.

Change the lines:

I cannot expect a car-park every sodding place anybody wants to go.

It isn't me who is losing touch with reality.

The reality is that people park on zigzags at schools because there isn't enough parking.

Yes, quite honestly it's preferable to pull a few houses down than risk injuring/killing children by zigzag parking. Not sure what your problem is with that.

Nowhere did I suggest that would be easy or cheap. If you can't stomach a proper solution, why are you complaining about the problem?

There is not enough parking in many places for all the people who would like to park there - do you know Central London? Do you know many, many railway stations?

That doesn't mean it has to be provided regardless of cost in terms of money and lost housing or shops.

Yes, I know central London. I wonder if you know anywhere else in the UK because c London isn't representative! Should I ring the council and ask them to put a tube network in my region, just like London?

"Yes, quite honestly it's preferable to pull a few houses down than risk injuring/killing children by zigzag parking. Not sure what your problem is with that."

LOLOL. that is so way off the mark it is unbelievable. Are you really as stupid as you are coming across?

"A few houses"?

If every school had to have enough car-parking for every child to be brought by car whose parents wanted to do that, just how many houses, shops, offices do you think we would have to lose?

The idea is preposterous.

The proper solution is to encourage lazy parents not to drive.

And blue Central London is unusual but there are schools there too! I simply meant to point out that there are places other than schools where people might like to park but they bloody well can't because you'd have to tarmac the entire area.

I also mentioned railway stations which are to be found all over the country, as you may have noticed, and few of which can park as many cars as there are users who would like to park there.

Yes I am really as stupid as I am coming across.

Not sure what to make of your last post, blue.

The reality is people who park on zigzags are breaking the law. Whats wrong with parking a couple of streets away & WALKING. As for suggesting demolishing houses......

MN collectively knows everything.

Is there anybody here who can work out how many average-size suburban semi-pairs per average-size suburban school we would have to pull down?