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Overweight Mothers give birth to fat babies?

127 replies

worraliberty · 26/09/2011 10:20

AIBU to think that measuring the BMI of babies in the womb, is a step too far? I mean, surely a child's birth weight (unless it's extremely high/low) isn't exactly an indicator of anything much...considering all babies feed differently?

My DS2 was only 5lb 7oz (the smallest by far of my 3 DS) and yet, he's the heaviest of all of them and gained about an ounce per day from birth.

Other babies, can be born heavy and lose an ounce a day....so what does the study really mean in terms of anything much? Confused

www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8788593/Overweight-mothers-give-birth-to-fat-babies-study-finds.html

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PenguinPatter · 26/09/2011 20:20

Smile - Allboxedin I think you have a point.

It was notable when we moved here a lot of HCP had attitude patents were either naught DC or thick - never encountered where we lived previously.

Must be a cultural thing they pick up - maybe if you have that view its easier to assume testing for smoking is correct because as HCP you 'know best'.

PenguinPatter · 26/09/2011 20:26

PIMSoclock
"Let's face it, many occasional smokers do tell a lie to the midwife to avoid the lecture of what smoking can do."

Maybe but are they really going to be receptive to the help available?

I was accused of lying about previous births by MW - I didn't in any way shape of form - because my experiences and births weren't normal in their view - ie straight forward relatively quick. Sure as hell didn't make more more receptive to their advice.

PenguinPatter · 26/09/2011 20:29

FrozenNorthPole
"Worra - You've done a sterling job, but think the thread's given over to
anecdata now"

I agree - her posts have made it very clear the article is about liver fat not baby weight. I know my DC were big but have no idea what fat was round their livers - don't else anyone would either.

Original poster
worraliberty · 26/09/2011 20:32

Worra - You've done a sterling job, but think the thread's given over to anecdata now Grin

Aint that the truth

I now have AEKI imprinted across my forehead Grin

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AbsOfSteel · 26/09/2011 20:33

Obese children are victims of child abuse.

There I said it.

Allboxedin · 26/09/2011 20:36

Definately abs, I mean what normal, kind, loving mother would be walking down the street with an overweight child?!

keepingupwiththejoneses · 26/09/2011 20:51

absofsteels That is not always the case. ds3 is obese and nobody can understand why, he eats healthily, not masses of food and is always on the go, he actually eats less than ds2 who is quite skinny. The only thing that the doctors can come up with is it has some connection to his SN, he has autism, learning difficulties and adhd traits. Please don't judge before you know the facts.

WomanwiththeYellowHat · 26/09/2011 20:57

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AbsOfSteel · 26/09/2011 21:11

There are always going to be mitigating circumstances and I sympathise with you for that.

In my mind though, unless there are weight issues that are linked to some sort of condition then the parent is to blame.

peanutdream · 26/09/2011 21:16

all this talk about birth weight and maternal weight is very interesting but tells us nothing really Grin.

it is on about the fat around the organs - which on the person on the left rather than the weight of the person on the right (second picture down)

peanutdream · 26/09/2011 21:17

sorry have just read that back and it barely makes sense haha

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worraliberty · 26/09/2011 21:18

peanut could you repeat that every 7 or 8 posts please? Grin

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peanutdream · 26/09/2011 21:19

haha Grin

ivykaty44 · 26/09/2011 22:57

you can lead a poster to a link - but you can't force the poster to actually read the link Wink

lesley33 · 27/09/2011 01:29

keepingupwiththejoneses - I was an obese child although i didn't eat lots. Some kids genuinely need less food than other kids even when they are active.

lesley33 · 27/09/2011 01:33

Triggles and allboxed in - Sorry but if you had read the whole thread you would have read a poster talking about how men's lifestyles also seem to affect the sperm and has an impact on the health of babies when they areadults. So they are doing research into this as well.

Triggles · 27/09/2011 08:08

lesley - sorry, but I actually had read the whole thread, thank you. Hmm I don't SEE an official badge on your name saying "posting police"...

If you reread the article that was originally linked, there is no mention of this type of research regarding men, hence the article solely points this out as an issue seemingly entirely related to women.

There.... spelled out enough for you? Good lord, next time I vent slightly, I will make sure to be clearer for those in the gallery. Hmm

Allboxedin · 27/09/2011 08:19

Well I hadn't read it all sorry,[guilt ridden look] I have a toddler running around and shutting down my old laptop for me every few minutes......It doesnt actually say in the mumsnet rules that if you want to join a post or post a reply you have to read all the replies beforehand - scour, thats what I do and try and pick out the juicy bits Grin
I mean what if a post has 500 replies do you honestly have the time to read them all????!

bacon · 27/09/2011 12:13

There is a recent study to show bigger babies born of healthy mums of excellent diet are healthier than small babies. There is less chance of diabetis and have longer lives.

madam52 · 27/09/2011 12:16

I was a real skinny bint - 5ft 8ins and a size 8-10.

But my babies were both large - 7lb 13oz - a girl - and 9lb 12oz - a boy - .

ivykaty44 · 27/09/2011 17:36

allboxedin- there is no rule you need to read the first post or any of the subsequent posts, but it is a bit like butting into a conversation about one thing and getting the wrong end of the stick and chatting away about something else - you will end up getting funny looks and weird comments.

Allboxedin · 27/09/2011 19:23

Right!! .....Sorry for butting in and giving my two cents worth. In future I will shut up and let the rest of you who have enough time to read through each response get on with it!

Allboxedin · 27/09/2011 19:26

Mind you maybe it is a sensitive post for you if you sit on your arse all day with not much else to do! Grin

FloriaTosca · 27/09/2011 20:23

Perhaps my case ( to prove the theory is not necessarily a formula for a doomed life for the children of obese appleshaped Mums) is a bit premature as my Ds is only just 4, but I have been overweight since age of 3, all my weight has always been generally carried round my middle in the dread "apple" shape even back then... I got diagnosed with PCOS in my twenties which didnt help the problem and was sadly very obese by my 30s (though I sincerely fought it with SW, 5 miles swimming and 7hrs CV work in the gym a week)...When I finally got a sucessful pregnancy with Ds (pcos, endo, genetic translocation, antiphospholipid syndrome and advanced age all against me) I was back to a dreadful 4st over my maximum weight and developed gestational diabetes and hypertension in the 3rd trimester...however my Ds was born 7lb 13oz, dropped 10oz in the first week and remained on the 25th centile ever after.... At just 4 he is smallish and very slender with little or no tummy, he can only really wear Next slim fit trousers with adjustable waists comfortably....It is a bit soon to say he isnt following either my or his fathers equally bad apple shape (despite regular excersise and relatively healthy eating regime for both of us) but it certainly looks that way so far ....[hopeful emoticon].

BrokenBananaTantrum · 27/09/2011 20:28

I was 15st 8lbs when I got pregnant with DD. Gained about 1st whilst pregnant. DD was 5lb 12oz and full term. So not all fat women have fat babies.