to think people that smoke are totally crazy? i cannot understand it at all how do people afford it too?

[carriedababi]

i find it totally baffling

1. it's damages your health, and that of other around you, ie your children
2. its an outrageous waste of money
3. doesn't do your looks much good

how much is a pack of 20 these days anyway?

Ah pass it over then ferret dont me hogger

I think smoking looks cool. Whenever I see older movies I th

be a hogger - stupid phone

ink it. It's always looked cool.

No, I've never smoked, just grew up in the 70s and80s when everyone did.

I think laurie fell off her chair

Sorry tired just choked slightly at "anytime after 75 is a bonus"!

at Laurie falling over

When I was little I watched my dad die fairly slowly from lung disease. He had been exposed to pollutants at work before H+S was a big concern (he'd have been 94 now). I still feel freaked out by that darth vadery sound that people breathing through a mask make. My dad was on oxygen and had to sleep downstairs because he couldn't walk far enough to get upstairs. By the end he hadn't the energy to wipe his own backside and had to be taken to the toilet. Knowing that smoking can give you emphysema put me off it for life.

You better not have bummed it ferret

Nope usual I was just giving an example of getting carried away with my point of view.

Mabye I should have said "just like I get carried away when trying to get DH tidy his side of bedroom". He gets why - he just doesn't care

Usual maybe we should help her back up

I've had too much port. I may actually fall over.

My dad has had lung disease caused by work for ten years now, it caused him to give up smoking, when he goes anywhere he takes oxygen, he cannot get out the house without one of those ride on scooters.

He smoked all his life, but what done him was being a carpenter and not wearing a mask.

i use to smoke i stopped 4 years ago and i'm still gagging for one now and i cant explain why i want one still

Yes, obviously 81 is a good age to reach - unless you are one of those 81 year olds who is still working and travelling and running a big house and has a 27 year old son and two young grandchildren and who gets up and is busy all day doing things and is the lynchpin of the family but who gets this lung cancer diagnosis but suddenly desperately doesn't want to die and goes through 4 rounds of chemotherapy and excrutiating radiotherapy and throws up every day for 6 months and eventually goes down to 8 stone in weight and can't fight any longer.

While I can still buy them at £2/pack I will . I shall also be stocking up massively before moving. When back in England though, I suspect I may think about giving up as they're crazily expensive.

But then again, I might not.

"I'd be happy to live until I was 75. I'd not say I had a good life, but I'd have had a long one. I don't want to live until Im 90 and my children have to be taking care of me"

My dad died last year at 80, after a shortish illness. I'd love the chance to look after him. As would my mum.

My mum is 76 now and I'm grateful to have the chance to do more for her. I'm not a full-time carer. She doesn't need that and I'm not sure how I'll feel if I ever do need to do it. But I want her around for as long as possible.

Your children love you. They won't want to lose you - at 70, 80 or 90. You won't want to leave them sooner than you need to.

@ laurie, bloody pisshead,
Just lean on usual, i cant offer to hold you up in case i fall over

salads why do you think that is? I have stopped now and again but always fancy one, so its obviously not the nicotine as thats mostly gone after 3 days?

Can someone consult the New Scientist in the shitter for a explanation please?

Gosh, I've never understood why people shove junk food in their gobs because:

^i find it totally baffling

1. it's damages your health, and that of other around you, ie your children
2. its an outrageous waste of money
3. doesn't do your looks much good^

I understand more why people smoke than I understand why people eat broad beans tbh.

That was meant to be italicised ...

I smoke tobacco, it costs me about a tenner a week.
I've given up a few times, the longest was 18 months.
I'm of an age where I got serious sunburn as a child, there were no warnings then about how damaging it is/was.
(though I tan really easily now, never burn).
So I'm obviously a candidate for skin cancer.
I've actually had breast cancer, and a mastectomy, I'm now fully recovered.
At my age (55) I know it's not a good idea to carry on smoking, but what the fuck, I've been doing it a long time and enjoy it.
And also, the time I did stop for 18 months, I was rushed into hospital with a collapsed lung. It was totally arbitrary, could have happened to smoker or non smoker alike, I had X rays every day for a week and smoking had nothing to do with it.
So basically, I think I'm saying, whatever you do, something's going to get you.
So do what you enjoy.

I used to smoke fags 10 years ago they cost me £30 a week for 200. Now I smoke tobacco and I pay 12.50 a week. I paid 90 when I got paid for a months supply. Remember though I never go out so don't pay for activities to socialise, and I don't drink ever. I do have a shoe and clothes habit, but I fund that via eBay. I'd not pay shop prices for stuff I can get for around a fiver or less! and not everyone is wearing it.

Shit my maths. I pay more than 12.50! But not as much as fags, I think 20 a week on smokes is cheap as I don't do anything else.