To think this nurse was exaggerating the truth...

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I have just been to take my DD (13 months) for her injections. I very politely requested to have the 12 month boosters on a separate visit to the MMR. The nurse then told me that every other child in the country has their's together. AIBU to think this isnt the case???

In the end she agreed but after trying to make me feel silly and very PFB-ish. I definately don't want to turn this into a MMR/vaccinations debate, I just feel that it should be "my baby my choice" on how things are done (obviously working within the constraints of the NHS) and that it simply isn't true that ALL children have their injections together.

I think it is odd that they want you to have them together but when you say you want them separately they advise you to wait a month before you come back - always makes me wonder. They're fine about you having them separately here. Which reminds me, I have to book MMR....

DS didn't have his together - mostly because he also needed to have 2 flu vaccinations and the ?RSV one (for prem lungs or something, can't remember now!). I think we needed 3 trips in total to get them all in, and the nurse recommended leaving the MMR one later as it was better to have the flu vac before the major flu season kicked off.

In S London they've now reverted to giving the MMR booster at preschool age though, apparently.

I don't get why posters are having ago about not vaccinating? My understanding is OP wants to split boosters and MMR to separate visits (which is how they were done until fairly recently). I asked at my surgery and they were fine about it. YANBU to request this and not want to bombard your DC with alot of vaccines in one go.

It doesn't matter what she says, or what her attitude is. Have them done when you want. She can't do anything about it. Smile, ignore.

Free? Yes at the point of receiving the care, but the NHS is paid for by taxes I'm sure the OP pays VAT on something!

Unless she bought her own Lear Jet, she hasn't paid enough vat to come close to covering her own NHS bill, trust me.

She might have done, you don't have to have learjet type riches for that, not at all

I've heard this before, someone once said that no one paid enough taxes in their whole lifetime to pay for one single nhs birth

it's just not true at all

anyway it has no bearing unless you only want to allow people enough services that they've paid for, and none at all for any self-inflicted or "through choice" injuries like sports, alcoholism, gastric bands etc etc

so that's a pretty big debate you're getting into - and massive claim you're making - just because you want a child to have two vax in one appt

Our nurse was perfectly happy to do it in two appointments. The letter said ds was to get mmr as well as two other jabs, a total of 6 vaccines. I asked for mmr at one, then the rest six weeks later.

Is this some new campaign going on, claiming no one pays enough taxes to be able to choose NHS services?

OP, ask the nurse to sign a personal disclaimer admitting personal responsibility for all adverse effects from multiple simultaneous vaccinations administered by her

whoops - forgot - they're all denied anyway aren't they

Not really. If you add up all the services you've recieved in your lifetime, then add up your taxes, then minus off your taxes all the other things that come out of that same pot...you haven't paid nearly enough to cover what you get.

So yes, saying suck it up and don't cost the NHS extra cash that they can ill afford just so you can indulge your case of PFB-itis is, IMO, a valid opinion. There is no clinical need to have them seperately, so why should the nhs pay for whims of parents?

*not that you need to have covered all you get, obviously. But you shouldn't be deliberately trying to waste nhs money when there are people in real need who could be better served by it.

Actually featherbag - there is plenty of evidence that shows that vaccines CAN be harmful for SOME children. For some children the risk of the vaccine is greater than the unlikely risk of them catching the disease AND having a dangerous complication from it.

OP YANBU - many people choose to separate their vaccines and I think the two have only just started being given together so plenty of children in the country have had them separately despite what your nurse said :)

For those saying - "It wouldn't be done if it wasn't safe" you may want to read about the MMRI being released in the UK despite it being withdrawn in other countries due to safety concerns about the Urabe strain of mumps that was used in the vaccine. After being used for a few years it was withdrawn here too due to those same safety concerns. Of course "they wouldn't have given it if it wasn't safe' though would they?

Could be worse. DS was advised to have the HIB top up many years ago. I took him in and was reminded that it was time to get his MMR booster. I said, "oh can I get them done together today, or should we leave a gap of a few weeks between the different shots?". The practice nurse said, without drawing breath "If you've got any doubts about the MMR, take this NHS leaflet about the risks home and read it, don't do anything you're not happy with, it's absolutely your choice and have you considered homeopathic alternatives?"

so .. doign what's best for your child is deliberately wasting money?

would love to see a comparison on doctor's appt numbers bewteen vax and unvax chidlren

"people in real need" - you need to look at proportions of the nhs budget spent on treatments resulting from lifestyle choice

obesity, diabetes, drink-related, sports injuries, diet, etc etc

two appts for vax is nothing and could save money in sick kid treatment in future

the doctor who 'discovered' the problem with MMR has financial links to a company selling single vaccinces which he chose to hide. you cannot take soone

Separate vaccinces are worse for the population as not everyone has the further jabs.

So the nurse told you the correct thing for most people. (she did not tell you well though)

YANBU - our nurse is fab and haooy to split at 12 and 18 months which is better for my child given allergies.

Oh and diabetes isn't a 'lifestyle choice' illness for all. Mine certainly isn't.

Happy even ...!

DS had his a couple of months ago all together - I was surprised (since DD had jabs at 12 and 13 months not that long ago), but was told it was because so many people were not returning for the 13 month jabs they'd changed policy.

o she is exaggerating.

My ds had the first set at 12 ish months and he had his mmr last monday at 17 months. Don't stress too much about her comments. I had no intention of giving him all at the same time, and it sound liek you don't either. Just be firm with them and be ready with a few reason at to why you might want to delay it.

TheRealTilly, this isn't about single measles vaccine vs MMR - it's the MMR being given alongside another combined vaccine and it is a fairly recent change to the schedule.

FWIW you are wrong about the Wakefield single vaccine thing. There are plenty of threads that talk about it in the Vaccination topic if you want to inform yourself - just so we don't drag this thread off topic! :)

Here the MMR and 12 month booster are still given seperatly. IF they hadnt been I would have requested they were as I would rather spread them out more if thats at all an option.

He has had every vaccine possible (including flu jabs) but I still wouldn't have wanted to give both lots at once.

my son had all his, a week after coming out of hospital for breathing difficulties.i saw my gp pre having them and was really poopoo'ed about it (i asked if he should have them due to being not fully recovered)
was told that there was no issue with it, they had no nurse and had had to get a supply nurse in to do immunisations and that most parents who didn't have the jabs first time didn't come back. (he is my 3rd,my children have always been vaccinated)
straight after having his jabs (and having been fully checked out by the GP) he projectile vomited twice, slept for 3 hours and i spent the next 3 days in the care of the paed team giving him inhalers. i would've gone for 'delaying' or seperate jabs if i could do it again.
i've complained to my GP.

Since the country has billions of pounds of debt and funding cuts are occuring in every sector, including the admin staff who send and book appts for your baby, it is completely reasonable to expect parents to have injections as recommended by the HPA. In this case both MMR and boosters for PCV etc together. There is no more risk than any other injections being given together. The 'think of little Johnnys poor little immune system debate' is complete tosh ........their little bodies are exposed on average to 4000 different types of bacteria and viruses per day! Having parents bring children on one rather than several occasions saves lots of time and money and enables patients who need to see the nurse for other issues to do so more quickly. These immunisations in inactive form will create few problems for most children. Those who have had a reaction previously are offered a different schedule, usually in a medical setting instead of the GPs surgery.

Publichair the GP gave extremely poor advice there - imms should never be given during a suspected illness