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to think that all that really matters in love, as love conquers all.

61 replies

carriedababi · 14/09/2011 23:11

people spend too much time worrying about things that don't actually matter imo

OP posts:
Anniegetyourgun · 15/09/2011 09:08

I really, truly hope love doesn't conquer all. Love is very silly. In the right circumstances (combined with certain factors and directed to an appropriate object) it can be wonderful, but of itself it is a trick played by Nature to ensure we procreate, bring up our offspring, and don't kill each other. I'm all for it... but please don't assign some over-the-top power to it that it not only doesn't have but shouldn't have. Don't belittle a fine thing with hyperbole.

solidgoldbrass · 15/09/2011 23:55

Well there are various interpretations of what 'love' is, and I am going to do the OP the favour of not assuming that she was referring only to heteromonogamous sexual love. I think it's fair to say that human beings, or at least psychologically healthy ones, need love to a certain extent. If you never experience any kindness or affection or consideration or any positive attention at all, you are not going to be or remain mentally healthy. IF you recieve only a very little of it, intermittently, you are not going to thrive.
Human beings are co-operative, social animals (and simultaneously, competitive ones, which is what keeps life interesting).

However, this doesn't mean that love, of any kind, is a cure or replacement for not having enough money, food, physical health or freedom.

CheerfulYank · 16/09/2011 05:41

OP has mentioned love between parents and children SGB, so I don't think she's just talking about heteromonogamous luuuurrrrve. :)

spookshowangellovesit · 16/09/2011 06:39

more often than not love of someone bad for you will take you down a bad path at some point in your life and one hopes that love of self will pull you up out of it but as seen so often it rarely does.

CurrySpice · 16/09/2011 08:03

It seems I still have to pay my tax bill.

Not even a discount for a blow job Wink

lesley33 · 16/09/2011 09:16

Love makes life better - I do agree with that.

But love isn't enough by itself and doesn't conquer all. Relationships and marriages fail where both partners genuinely love each other. But for a number of reasons they can't build and maintain a good marriage together.

It is quite common for people with serious mental health problems e.g. szichophrenia to self medicate with illegal drugs as a way of dealing with hallucinations and hearing voices. I agree that there has to be a reason why people become drug addicts, but there are other reasons than feeling unloved.

Ifancyashandy · 16/09/2011 09:40

I am not feeling the love for this pile of crap thread.

But that's probably my fault for being single and childless Hmm

SayCoolNowSayWhip · 16/09/2011 09:42

What a lovely idea.

Ah yes. Complete bjollocks then :)

Love didn't help my mother when she was walked out on 10 years ago, went through cancer while reeling from that, had a nervous breakdown. I love my mother more than anything apart from DD and DH but it doesn't stop her crying at least once a day because of all she's lost.

Fuck off back to Nethuns OP

Birdsgottafly · 16/09/2011 09:57

'Love' did help everyone of the people quoted, those that were ill etc. The love of fellow humans, that is. Yes people do things out of selfishness, that is what most religion is, we do good things so we go to Heaven and not Hell, carrot and stick.

But the welfare state and other human right acts have been pioneered by those with a sense of 'love', for want of a better word, towards their fellow 'man' (and woman).
Animal charities are born out of people who love animals etc.

I think that the OP has a point, if you have good carers who love you,(parents, but doesn't have to be) as children, life goes alot better.

You treat someone you love with respect, the message has taken along time to get through to women that DV etc, isn't how someone who loves you treats you.

MH issues are different, of course.

We have never paid enough attention to the quality of the relationships that we develop with others, if we did, other things would right themselves.

If we question the basis of our actions, which would enhance our self awareness and force us to be honest with ourselves and others, then the world would be a much better place.

Ormirian · 16/09/2011 10:05

Oh don't be silly Grin

Of course it doesn't.

Dad had a heart bypass last year and a valve replacement. I am sure the surgeon and all the nurses were very nice and all that but I don't think they loved him very much.

But I'll be sure to pass your comments on to my bank manager to see if that prompts him to cancel my overdraft.

CurrySpice · 16/09/2011 11:37

I shouldn't bother Ormirian, it was no dice with the taxman Angry

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