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AIBU?

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To miss at least half my qualifications (especially the highest) off an application for a job?

88 replies

Shakti · 12/09/2011 15:00

Ok, is it?

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Pendeen · 13/09/2011 14:35

wannaBe,

Not sure what sort of jobs you are applying for but, just curious....

Are there no jobs where the employer should be able to decide that someone with poor eyesight is simply not suitable?

A (silly but obvious I know) example would be a driver or pilot. There may be others, what do you think?

higgle · 13/09/2011 15:28

YANBU I recruit care staff for my employer. Most of our staff have a few GCSEs and maybe an unrelated NVQ before they train with us. On three occasions I have taken on really highly qualified staff, one with an MSc and two with graduate social work diplomas and care managers awards. On each occasion they said they really wanted to get back to doing basic practical work etc. etc. All three left in less than a week because they realised it was not what they really wanted! Now I don't even offer the really highly qualified an interview.

carlywurly · 13/09/2011 19:11

thanks minus, that was some really spooky timing especially as my first interview was back in July..!

When I used to recruit, I remember an Oxford graduate (with first class degree) applying for an entry level data entry job in my team. I didn't shortlist her because the job needed a long term plodder, for want of a better description. I felt awful though, she should have had her pick of jobs.

DP is a teacher, at a very good private school, and said that the latest batch of sixth formers are being encouraged to think about gaining skills for jobs, rather than thinking of qualifications for long term careers, as the job market is just so dire, and university places are becoming scarcer by the year. It's worrying.

grumplestilskin · 13/09/2011 19:23

higge how many grads did you hire before deciding on this policy? I don't think it's fair. Would you be allowed to print a MAXIMUM qualification on the specification? unless the answer is yes then I think YABU

in my local hospital there are a lot of ex registered physiotherapists, occupational therapists and nurses who down graded to HCA to get more patient contact and have enjoyed it and stuck with it. Lots of ex nurses doing HCA work long term in the community too. Its quite common and works quite well. My DS has been doing HCA work with an agency for YEARS even though he has a MSc and works in the field of his qualification too, he just really enjoyes HCAing and keeping in touch with people at that level.

I know you have to eliminate somehow, but Hmm

grumplestilskin · 13/09/2011 19:24

that was meant to say DH, my DS is 2 Grin

higgle · 14/09/2011 16:24

I work for a small cash straped charity, grumblestiltskin, and each recruitment costs us large amounts of money, with a local newspaper ad being just under £1,000. I have taken on three of these "I just want to get back to basics" candidates - actually indicating that long term there might be prospects for an enhanced role. The first dropped all her kit off in her nice new Mercedes 3 days after her first shift saying she hadn't really thought it through and it wasn't what she wanted. One of the others sailed off to a social workers post a week after she arrived and another messed us about over about 10 shifts before just not turning up again. When we have vulnerable adults to care for in the community I can't afford to make recruitment mistakes again, so I won't ofer to this type of candidate again.

Insomnia11 · 14/09/2011 16:28

£1000 for a local newspaper? I thought it was about a tenner Shock

FairhairedandFrustrated · 14/09/2011 16:44

Congratulations Curly Grin

grumplestilskin · 14/09/2011 19:56

3 is really not a lot, maybe you need to do better at judging personalities? as there will be feckless people of any grade, especially when there are SOO many ex higher grade care workers working very well in the community and other health care settings, pretty much ANY health care setting has ex high grade carers who went "back to basics" and stayed there.

higgle · 15/09/2011 07:42

It is not ex high grade workers that are the problem - I have employed people with high academic qualifications, it is the ex managers. 3 is not a lot? you don't know out of how many! Nurses who have done practical rather than management work often make good people in the "back to basics" category.

Witchofthenorth · 15/09/2011 08:14

I am an employer OP and I would suggest that you omit your qualifications that are not relevant. For what it's worth I tend to employ people who will gel with my team. I do admit though that I have had CVs that sound wonderful, extremely intelligen people who have obviously worked very hard for their qualifications in law, or business management, they have masters and degrees and a whole load of other things which go right over my head. When I see these qualifications I think " why the bloody hell do they want to work with me when they can have a fab job!?"
I would say that nine times out of ten I actually ignore the qualifications and go for the hobbies and interests as they tell me more about you than what you studied for.

Minus273 · 15/09/2011 09:25

Thing is witch, there are no jobs. Personally I'd do any job to get back to working better hours and if it fitted in with childcare etc I'd probably stay until my youngest was well into High school. That's years away as she has not been born yet.

Shakti · 15/09/2011 10:57

Congrats Curly!! Nice to read some good news.

I have decided to continue to omit stuff on application forms. But if I get interviews I will come clean and say that I wanted the opportunity to tell them face to face why I wanted this role (and what I can offer them) but do not want to do a job without being entirely honest.

I guess some people will just (hopefully metaphorically) throw me out, but reading through this there are two important points. If they like me at interview and are fairly savvy I suspect they will understand exactly why I did it and employ me anyway. If not, well I think I would open my big mouth and say something that gives me away and then I will have really wrecked good working relationships at a new job. Not a scenario I would like.

Anyway, just about to apply for a job that needs full list of qualifications and work experience. Is very part time but would help the finances!

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