to think that if 9/11 had happened anywhere else we wouldn't be remembering it ten years on?

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... or probably even one year on.

I am not taking away from how horrific it was for all who were directly affected.

But if it had been anywhere but America the world would have moved on and we wouldn't be facing wall-to-wall coverage ten years on. Even if it had been the UK only the UK would be remembering.

MyGoldfish - thats why I choose Hiroshima (approx 45000 dead in one day) as that was ONE attack. Though on that basis, technically 9/11 was FOUR attacks

No Kerry, it wasn't.

I also think it's pretty despicable for you to say that on this thread at this time.

goldfish agree with you 100%

Totally agree Sansa, they can't help themselves.

God yes Kerry.. the Belsan children

what was the date of that? Does anyone know, off the top of their heads?

PS, there is a difference between rememberance ceremonies (which obviously happen everywhere that was affected, every year, and I'm sure happen for every major world event) and the wall to wall TV coverage that we've seen for the past few weeks

No, LDN it was for portofino

takethisonehereforastart please define "it" from OP and we can argue...

I do not think that 9/11 is significant because it took place in a random country called USofA, but because what USA represents... that is all

kerry because you believe against all odds into "9/11 is an internal job" I will argue with you no more.

Thing is, beyondthelimits , I take your point, choose Hiroshima to commemorate by all means, but you should compare like with like.

Many people have differing views about whether Hiroshima and Nagasaki should have happened, but they were an act of war. ANd a long and deadly World War at that. 9/11 was a (peacetime) terrorist attack. Are they comparable?

re Beslan - i know off the top of my head. 1st of september

I think much of the media coverage is crass in the extreme.

When Saddam hussain was executed there were (aledgedly) videos of it on youtube, and yet people found that distasteful. When Osama Bin Laden was killed there were (aledgedly) pictures of his body on the internet, yet people felt they didn't want to see that and that it was distasteful. As LDN said there is footage of the conflict in Palistine on youtube, yet nobody would go on there to watch it.

And yet we havd documentary after documentary showing footage of the second plane hitting the wtc, worse still of people, innocent, desperate people jumping out of the windows of the north tower because they knew what the alternative was going to be.

It was horrific to watch it the first time round, but it was live and to a large extent people felt compelled to do so. But why would anyone want to, or even feel it was appropriate to relive it? Why?

Not sure why being American makes any difference Kerry.

I'm not American but my uncle nearly died in the street that day.

Spouting conspiracy theories on a thread about 9/11 on the eve of 9/11 is despicable IMO.

"fucking CRY when someone fights back"

I actually have no words...

bemy by that statement then surely the remembrance ceremonies should also in this case be isolated to America? And I don't see the UK media as highlighting the tragedy (Hiroshima) each year unless it simply gets a mention on the day of commemoration itself.

Constant talk or reminders of an event with documentaries and so on on every single media platform takes place in remembrance of 9/11 each year. Isn't that why this thread was started in the first place? I hardly think I am the only one aware of this fact. In fact, I believe another poster further up thread even mentioned it had been all over the front page of her local newspaper.

Sorry but what are 9/11 activities? You make it sound like a party event, which is very telling IMO.

I never said the children had to participate in documentaries, I think you misunderstood. I was saying that it must be heartbreaking for certain people who were truly close to the incident to have it replayed to them every year in the manner it is. I wonder how they can possibly move on with their lives and past such a tragedy like most people in the world are given the freedom to do after a loss of this magnitude.

I am sorry for your baby girl.

conspiracy theories are just wacko. trying to link circumstantial and spurious events as if significant and constructed by us govt.but some folks are bit challenged and love a good fings we dont understand x files explanation

portofino - as a point aside, the figure for Soviet Union are now widely accepted by serious historians to be closer to 29mil, and together with the murders of the soviet regime of its own citizens between 1937-1953 it is a staggering 39 million.

I think Kerrymumbles should leave this thread. I'm up for intelligent discussion, but conspiracy theories are ridiculous.

Re Beslan - I already alluded to that in my first post on this thread :( Makes me so sad, as I was pregnant with my second child. It would have been late summer 2004, but I don't know an exact date. Beslan was an internal 'USSR' thing - a revenge by Chechyans on Russia for the invasion. We don't have such close ties with Russia, and it didn't 'change history' like 9/11 did.

Doesn't detract from the horror of the actual event though.

I'm pretty sure people were crying because their loved ones had been endangered, hurt, maimed or killed not because of anyone "fighting back"

I very much doubt that anybody who was killed on that day rampaged anywhere, Kerry. I see your wider point (if I really strain), but the way you have articulated it is really crass. Truly. At least FabbyChic can blame a neurological condition.