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to be really pissed off DP won't write thankyou letters to aged relatives?

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Anna1976 · 23/08/2011 09:24

or indeed any letters at all...

I come from a tradition where if you got a present you wrote a nice handwritten thankyou that showed you appreciated the thought and consideration of the other person. I've always tried to stick to that because I think that particularly with aged relatives, most gifts are about thought and consideration - and surely a little piece of nice warm fuzziness from the other person to you, deserves a nice warm fuzzy back, in whatever form will make the other person feel properly pleased. With rellies over 70 that is generally a thankyou letter. While it was often a struggle with my grandparents, I always tried to treat older generations as people I could and should relate to as normal humans.

DP comes from a tradition where that is seen as ridiculous hyper-social manneredness from the stunted 1950s when women were stuck in the home scrubbing and washing children. His parents have the convenient arrangement that because his father earns squillions and is rich anyway, his mother gets to not have a full-time job, lead her own life, pay for babysitters for the kids a lot (in the past), be "feminist" about doing only stuff that suits her (some of it is very sensible, eg having a fulfilling career even if it isn't a very good earner or full time; however some of it is really silly).

DP's parents have brought up their kids to not ever have conversations with adult guests, to tell grandma what they're doing at school and not wait for an answer before disappearing, to have no interest in interacting with older generations (to the extent that they don't know they still sound like schoolkids in their 30s), and most importantly to this thread, to never acknowledge presents from people (or say thankyou for having us over to dinner, or whatever) because apparently that just gets into a cycle of "thankyou for the thankyou" type letters.

This all seems to be a reaction to DP's mother's rather 1950s upbringing, most which she firmly dismissed as soon as she was the first one in her family to go to university and discover life beyond the kitchen. So you can see why she's still reacting even 40 years later, but I find the cumulative effect on her kids pretty sad.

I write those kinds of thankyou for the thankyou letters to my aunts and great-aunts all the time - because I write to them fairly frequently anyway, because (1) it's fun to correspond with nice people (2) they're interesting and (3) I feel a bit sad that noone else in my family pays them much attention.

I am increasingly feeling despondent that DP won't write thankyous to my family or his own, or interact as a human (rather than a disinterested schoolkid) with anyone of an older generation. My aunt has just knitted him 3 awesome jumpers - which are lovely - and his reception of them was that he wouldn't wear them outside the house and yes he might write her a letter but he's too busy right now (which is a translation of "no I won't", every single time). They'd be fine for him to wear to work, given what other people at his work wear.

My parents have stopped giving him presents, and my sister has started giving him Oxfam goats and nothing else, because of this total lack of acknowledgement, but he hasn't taken the hint.

I'd be sad if people said "he's a tool, leave him, bastard"... but I really don't know what to do about it. I think it's utterly mannerless in a bad way, he thinks it's throwing off the shackles of the 1950s because his Mum says so.

GRR.

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wellwisher · 23/08/2011 22:13

Honestly, this sort of pig-headed rudeness would be a deal-breaker for me much earlier on in a relationship, if I couldn't train a man out of it. Did you know when you married him that he was such a douchebag? Do you have DCs? What kind of example does this set for them?

For the sake of the givers' feelings, I would send cards from Moonpig or similar, or flowers if you can afford them, so that they can be sent in his name, regardless of whether he knows or cares.

Anna1976 · 23/08/2011 22:50

wellwisher: not married, no DCs (i got on Mumsnet because I was ttc, gave up as I decided I didn't want to be a parent, but stayed on Mumsnet because the people are - mostly- sensible and interesting). I agree about what sort of example it sets to anyone on earth. A few things are turning up that i feel are dealbreakers, these days, mostly around issues of selective empathy.

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HipHopOpotomus · 23/08/2011 23:04

You write these letter because of tradition. He doesn't write letters - that's How he was brought up. Clearly not everyone is brought up the same. I think you are being very OTT up let it bother you so much. And I'm also amazed at the extent of gift giving in your family. Wherever do you keep it all? Smile.

YABU

weejimmykrankie · 24/08/2011 10:37

Gosh Anna, it sounds like there are a few underlying issues in your relationship, hope you manage to work out what's best, not easy to focus when you are working crazy hours and living abroad.

However, you are a stronger and more tolerant woman than I am- a man wearing hand-knitted jumpers would be a definitive dealbreaker for me!

bigTillyMint · 24/08/2011 10:46

YANBU to be pissed off that you have to write the cards, but it is not surprising that he won't write them. Men are usually useless at that kind of thing (does he send birthday cards?) as they don't see it as important. I was brought up to send thank-you cards, and always make the DC send them to aged rellys, but that was not the done thing in DH's house - they just say thanks at the time, if you're lucky!

He is NBU to not want to wear home-made jumpers to work. And I am a knitter Grin

baguettecut · 24/08/2011 10:53

People are different, I think you should repsect your husband's choice, he's big enough really to decide for himself whether he wants to write thank you notes or not, you can't force him to.

He's not five years old.

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