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To think justice served on the Mum of Disabled Child in Revenge Attack

256 replies

Mitmoo · 23/08/2011 08:42

Thanks to milkmilk for posting this on a different thread but it has got lost.

The mother of a disabled child who plotted a revenge attack on a poster who launched attacks on a disabled child via the internet found not guilty.

DM but that doesn't matter - it's an important article.

A mother who joined a revenge attack on a man responsible for a vile campaign of internet abuse against her disabled daughter has been spared prison.

Sylvia Hooper, 52, was described as a ?decent and law-abiding? woman who dedicated her life to her seriously ill daughter Kim Arnold. But she snapped after looking on helplessly as a cowardly bully sent her a series of appalling comments via Facebook.

One labelled her a cripple and said the wheelchair user should be left to ?roll down a hill.?

Another message read: ?Your mother should have had an abortion. She only had you because she felt sorry for you.?

Mr Hooper, 19, punched the bully after his mother said ?hit him? and Berwick was then taken back to the family home by car. He was forced to crawl inside and make a ?grovelling apology? to his victim while on all fours. At one point he was hit on the chin with a rolled up newspaper.

All three admitted assault but denied false imprisonment and the judge ruled that not guilty verdicts should be entered.

He said: ?I sentence you on the basis that Mr Berwick sent messages that were wholly disgraceful and shameful but then tried to put the blame on his girlfriend.?

Mrs Hooper was given a conditional discharge. The two men were given community orders which included voluntary work.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2028961/Judge-spares-mother-jail-plotted-attack-internet-troll-posted-horrific-comments-disabled-daughter.html#ixzz1Vpq1S3To

Precised down full article on the above link.

Good for the judge, the right decision was made.

OP posts:
2shoes · 23/08/2011 12:09

wow
so now it is the victims fault and her families
mn never changes.
you do realise the girl was the victim, the man was the bigoted bully?

yet no talk about how he should have been dealt with by the police, how the family should have been supported.
just blaming them cos they loved the drama don't you know!!!
I assume none of you have ever been targets, never been begging the police to do something.
if you had perhaps you would be more supportive of the real victim.

Glitterknickaz · 23/08/2011 12:09

I do think some people enjoy being victims. You only have to look at threads here to see that

Really? How wonderful. So nice you're an expert on other people's situations. Have you any idea what some families go through?

worraliberty · 23/08/2011 12:10

They don't go away though. You block, they pop up somewhere else so you block again, and again, and again.... why should they be forced through the stress of that? Why is that acceptable? (voice of experience) Why should they have to do that?

How can they pop up elsewhere if you've blocked them?

How can they add themselves to your account and message you if you have your settings in proper place?

The answers are....THEY CAN'T

Some people are really trying to complicate a very simple process. That's the beauty of FB. It's not like chat forums where anyone can talk to you...they can't if you don't want them to.

2shoes · 23/08/2011 12:11

oh ffs, so you want the vile man and his like to go unchecked??
to bully and destroy people?

ProfessionallyOffendedGoblin · 23/08/2011 12:12

'I do think some people enjoy being victims. You only have to look at threads here to see that'

Gosh, I agree again. I've seen it a lot by women with children arguing that their need for a parking space or a toilet is as great as that of people with disabilities and it isn't faaiiir that blue badges get people special treatment.

Glitterknickaz · 23/08/2011 12:13

Different accounts.
You do realise you can message people without being friends with them don't you?

Glitterknickaz · 23/08/2011 12:14

Oh yes, having a pram is just like being disabled init.

worraliberty · 23/08/2011 12:14

oh ffs, so you want the vile man and his like to go unchecked??
to bully and destroy people?

I'm not sure if that's aimed at me?

What I 'want' is to see vulnerable people protected by the security settings FB have put in place.

It really is quite simple.

alemci · 23/08/2011 12:16

I don't think punching the 'victim' was right but what is wrong with the people who are saying such horrible things on fb in the first place. have they got nothing better to do. I just cannot understand their mentality.

Also they themselves could go on to have a severely disabled child. How would they feel about the situation then.

worraliberty · 23/08/2011 12:16

Different accounts
You do realise you can message people without being friends with them don't you?

NO GlitterKnickaz you CAN'T if you use the security settings.

That is my whole point here!

If people use FB, they should know how it works and how to use the very simple privacy settings Hmm

Glitterknickaz · 23/08/2011 12:17

I have had people message me, try it, type in some random name on facebook, you'll be able to message them.

2shoes · 23/08/2011 12:17

worraliberty so you don't want anyone to do anything about the vile people like that man.
you just want the victims to act????

DuelingFanjo · 23/08/2011 12:18

sorry - but I think she was in the wrong. Awful behaviour.

Glitterknickaz · 23/08/2011 12:18

Of course, nothing wrong in abusing people after all. They should just bloody well avoid it shouldn't they. Meting out the abuse is acceptable.

2shoes · 23/08/2011 12:19

"she"
so the man was innocent.
gotta love mn.do you all say this stuff to people asking support for DV?
gotta wonder

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 23/08/2011 12:19

Love being the victim of disablist abuse here, makes my day Hmm Not quite getting that one

2shoes · 23/08/2011 12:20

Glitterknickaz do you think this means we can now call bigots wankers on here?

wannaBe · 23/08/2011 12:21

nobody has said that it is the victim's fault.

But if it is possible to take preventative measures, what's wrong with suggesting that? Let's use another analagy:

In the past couple of weeks I've been out on my own at night. When coming home, I have three options how I can get home from the station. I can either:

  1. walk home via fairly open, busy-ish roads, past houses, well lit.
  1. take the short cut through a series of back, and dark, alleyways.
  1. Get in a cab.

Now, theoretically I should be able to save the cab fare and walk home the shortest route that cuts through a load of dark alleyways (we're talking about coming home at midnight here). But in reality you just never know who might be hanging around in those dark alleyways, do you? muggers, or worse.

If I walked home via the alleyways and were mugged or raped or attacked in any way then the attacker is at fault - no question about that. I would not be to blame in any way shape or form for the attack. However, I can take preventative steps to hopefully not end up in that position in the first place, by either walking home the lit route or jumping in a cab.

the victim is not to blame for the people that put messages on her wall. But she can stop it from happening again by blocking the perpitrator and setting her fb such that it can't happen again. That doesn't make her at fault, but equally it's not wrong to suggest it.

worraliberty · 23/08/2011 12:23

I have had people message me, try it, type in some random name on facebook, you'll be able to message them

Then clearly you don't understand how to use the privacy settings GlitterKnickaz

In fact, if they have removed themselves from the 'search option' I wouldn't find them in the first place.

Seriously, People do need to take 10-15 minutes out and look at the privacy settings and how to use them.

If you have people messaging you, it's because you haven't got your settings to 'friends only can send me a message'

Glitterknickaz · 23/08/2011 12:24

Oh yes, she was very much in the wrong, but so was the man who started all of this.

Glitterknickaz · 23/08/2011 12:24

I've put ten different names at random of people I don't even know. I can message them all. I'll let you know when I find someone I can't message.

worraliberty · 23/08/2011 12:26

2shoes

I have no idea why you are randomly trying to cause a fight here.

Are you deliberatly misreading the fact I'm saying THE BULLY WAS WRONG AND VILE BUT THE WHOLE THING WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO ESCALATE AND CAUSE SO MUCH DISTRESS AND HEARTACHE, IF THE SICKO HAD BEEN BLOCKED BECAUSE THE ACCOUNT USER/HER FAMILY USED THE PRIVACY SETTINGS?

Now you can turn as many posts as you like into 'anti disabled' posts and read what isn't being said until your heart's content...but quite frankly, it's a bit silly and a waste of everyone's time.

worraliberty · 23/08/2011 12:27

I've put ten different names at random of people I don't even know. I can message them all. I'll let you know when I find someone I can't message

Yes, because they have their security set so anyone can message them!

The point is, they CAN change that if they want to.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 23/08/2011 12:27

When they're 'blocked' you can't message them. The random people are not 'blocked', are they?

Read what Worra is saying.

2shoes · 23/08/2011 12:30

as I said before imo there is more to this than just fb.....how did they know where he lived??