To think justice served on the Mum of Disabled Child in Revenge Attack

[Mitmoo]

Thanks to milkmilk for posting this on a different thread but it has got lost.

The mother of a disabled child who plotted a revenge attack on a poster who launched attacks on a disabled child via the internet found not guilty.

DM but that doesn't matter - it's an important article.

A mother who joined a revenge attack on a man responsible for a vile campaign of internet abuse against her disabled daughter has been spared prison.

Sylvia Hooper, 52, was described as a ?decent and law-abiding? woman who dedicated her life to her seriously ill daughter Kim Arnold. But she snapped after looking on helplessly as a cowardly bully sent her a series of appalling comments via Facebook.

One labelled her a cripple and said the wheelchair user should be left to ?roll down a hill.?

Another message read: ?Your mother should have had an abortion. She only had you because she felt sorry for you.?

Mr Hooper, 19, punched the bully after his mother said ?hit him? and Berwick was then taken back to the family home by car. He was forced to crawl inside and make a ?grovelling apology? to his victim while on all fours. At one point he was hit on the chin with a rolled up newspaper.

All three admitted assault but denied false imprisonment and the judge ruled that not guilty verdicts should be entered.

He said: ?I sentence you on the basis that Mr Berwick sent messages that were wholly disgraceful and shameful but then tried to put the blame on his girlfriend.?

Mrs Hooper was given a conditional discharge. The two men were given community orders which included voluntary work.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2028961/Judge-spares-mother-jail-plotted-attack-internet-troll-posted-horrific-comments-disabled-daughter.html#ixzz1Vpq1S3To

Precised down full article on the above link.

Good for the judge, the right decision was made.

wouldn't work here.
one neighbour stood up fot us, she moved in the end as she couldn't take living with this going on(we don't have that option)
people tend to be too scared that they will be the next target, or like seen on this thread, don't give a shit. and blame the victims.
see wannabe's post

So in spite of the fall out from this cse the way the police and councils deal with this hasn't improved in your experience 2Shoes? This harassment should be treated as a hate crime.

MNHQ takes on all sorts so campaigns. This sounds like exactly the kind of thing they should be taking on. And it's the kind of thing the government might actually get behind because it's about following the guidance that's already been given and it's cheap.

There was a tv program on, or a couple, not very long ago highlighting the problems surrounding parents who have disabled child and there was a woman whose house was getting smashed up and her son bullied because her other son had cerebral palsy. NOTHING was ever done iirc and even after the program it was still going on. It's absolutely disgusting. Carers have enough on their plates without this kind of shit aswell (and I do count the brothers in the original story as carers aswell)

That women lived in one of the most expensive places in the whole of the UK didnt she? That place in Dorset. It has the most millionaires per sq inch or something - and the same amount of bastard wankheads by the look of that programme.

There is always fallout when cases end badly, headlines and lots of use of the passive tense. Then a few weeks go by, and a few months and the only ones who really remember are those that are interested.
And that's not many.
Change either requires considerable, sustained effort or considerable money, usually both. So, not of interest to most governments, councils or individuals unless they are directly affected.

here is just one article, there are loads

Sandbanks thefirstMrsDeVere - and yes, it is still a shit hole - just that the shits have slightly more money than your average shits.

I don't live far away, and Bournemouth and Poole aren't far away at all - and they are shitholes!

What is the passive tense Goblin

MadamDeathstare it has stopped now,
thank god.
mn hq would have to get their own house in order first. and I can't see that happening

' the problems need to be sorted out'
'something should be done'
Those poor victims should not have to put up with those bullies'

Without saying who will sort the problems, who will act or how the victims are going to be protected. Passive tense is not active.

Thank you Miss [wunk]

I have learnt something useful today hurrah.

Who will sort out the problems? well one would like to think if someone was acting illegal they would be charged and sentanced. It is what laws are there for. None of that is happeneing to the perpetrators and is why you get vigilante action further down the line. Tbh if some little twat constantly harrangued my children and nothing was ever done about it, i think i would like to beat him with a rolled up newspaper aswell

that is the trouble nothing changes.
people have died and nothing changes

Regarding mn campaigns, I think mn should look at their own disablist policies, such as allowing people to 'opt out' of Special Needs threads (as they so tactfully term them). WTF is that all about? I know there is a history, with tales to tell about who said what to whom, but singling out SN threads as specifically one you don't want to be part of is completely out of order in my book, and probably illegal.

The message this sends out is that disability is an option that some people choose to take but others needn't be bothered by.

Historically, the opting out was by the request of the users of the SN forums singforsupper.
A combination of troills, but more that you would get regular members crashing on to threads without reading them carefully, or understanding that they were in SN. So the comments would often either be useless and irrelevant or WTF? I'd make him... types. It gets very wearying to have to go through 30 comments of 'I'd put her on the naughty step' 'He should be able to do that on his own by now' to find the three useful comments by people who know what you are talking about.
So the opt out was MN listening and being considerate.

Goblin(Child?) 'Without saying who will sort the problems, who will act or how the victims are going to be protected. Passive tense is not active.'

No one ever follows the phrase 'Someone should do something...' with the words 'and that someone is me'.

Someone did do something this time.

I also don't see how it is 2shoes' job to ensure that the fuckers who were abusing her family don't do it to someone else. It is their fucking job to do that.

Yes, 'tis me Morloth. The name is a response to the times we have SN bashing threads on the main boards and some of us turn up to point out the wrongness.

Thought you felt familiar.

I tend to only catch the tail end of things these days with the time difference.

Morloth: I never said 2shoes should ensure he did not target anyone else.

the main argument against the (sensible) suggestion that more people should know how to use fb settings appropriately was "well, that doesn't cure anyhting - he would just go on and do it to someone else"

as 2shoes' example has shown, so does violence (or the threat of violence). so that doens't solve anyhting either, does it? (other than the immediate issue of moving it on, which I understand perfectly - but then the fb blocking would have done that in the original case being discussed)

I do wish that everyone would stop trying to twist this into a "blame the victim" argument. no one here has done that. evetyone here agrees that he was wrong, and shoudl have been punished.

anyone here enquired of their local police community team what would happen in this situation? and how police would/would not act? and told them that they could in fact act? becasue there are a lot of people here up in arms abotu the fact that nothing was done - anyone stood up (in a wider sense than anonymously on the internet) and said it is not right, and insisted something was done?

In 2shoes' it did rather solve her problem though didn't it?

In the OP situation it was clearly more than just FB as they knew where to find him.

Shrug, I have no problem whatsoever with people using violence to defend themselves and would do so in more than just an immediate 'self defence' situation myself.

He got what he deserved and the mother and sons also got what they deserved (which is no real punishment).

yes, morloth, it did.

but the main thrust of the fb blocking argument was that it was rather a "i'm alright Jack" one, and that it would mean he moved on to other people. which is also what happens when violence is involved (in the main)

I am not saying people should not try to move the problem on form themselves. more that the two methods are yield the same results - it moves on from you, to someone else.

afaik, there is no suggestion that in the original case that the perpetrator had targetted in RL, so the "knew where to find him, so blocking on fb would not work" is a red herring - it is not known whether it would have worked (for the girl in question)

no, it would not have stopped the scumbag altogether, which is what was being objected to. but it is ok if violence doesn't stop the scum altogether, as long as they move along

I think violence is more likely to work than just blocking them.

While bullies may not crumble when confronted, the sort of weak character who gets off on targeting the disabled is more likely to have the shit scared out of them with a beating.

We are going around in circles, you think violence is never the answer, I believe it sometimes is. So there you go.

Sometimes people need a smack in the head, if you are going to be a jerk you shouldn't complain when said smack is administered.

I would have done something too, but if we say that revenge attacks (as opposed to self defence) are acceptable we can say goodbye to our society.

The bully deserved it, but if his friends now kidnap Sylvia Hooper or her child and abuse them it will be okay because they were just taking revenge too.