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To feel strange about this friend's dc being entitled to free school meals with a bit of tax credits thrown in too

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lecce · 19/08/2011 20:38

I think I need a good talking to over this one as I don't like myself for how I feel about it but can't shake off my feelings.

I have a good friend who, imo, has a bit of a useless prick for a husband. I have known her for about 8 years and throughout that whole time her h has never worked as he is writing a book. One book. The same book - he has never finished it. He is educated to Masters level but has never used these qualifications as he has been writing/reearching this book for the best part of ten years.

My friend has never been especially happy about this but things have got worse since they had their ds 5 years ago. The husband does nothing for his son and never has, really. He very rarely spends any time alone with him - didn't do this at all until the child was 6 months old and now, apart from a couple of isolated occasions, does so only during evenings when the boy is asleep. My friend worked full-time from the time her son was one until recently, though she has just gone part-time. Even when she was full-time, her h did no child-care, despite "working from home" and her son had to go to nursery f/t - something that upset my friend greatly (no offence to anyone, but she didn't want it for her son.) Her h has promised her that if he has not finished the book after 10 years, he will find work. The 10 year-mark is this autumn and he has been making noises about needing more time for the last couple of months, much to my friend's dismay.

Financially they are cushioned by her h's pretty wealthy family who give a few hand-outs and, most significantly, have allowed my frend and her h to keep the proceeds from the sale of a house they had bought as an investment when their son was a student. This money has recently allowed my friend and her h to buy a home, and a pretty nice one at that, mortgage-free.

I have never in my life begrudged anyone any kind of benefits before, or, to be more precise, ever given it any thought at all. But now I find myself thinking, why should this man be able to choose not to work, despite being highly qualified, have a lovely home and own it outright and still be able to claim anything at all? I was shopping with my friend today, looking for a lunch-box for ds who, along with her ds, will start school in September. I had assumed that her ds would take a packed lunch along with mine but she said that no, since she went part-time their income is so low that he will have free school meals. I'm afraid I kind of spluttered and laughed a bit, though managed to smooth it over.

Jealousy is such an ugly emotion and I don't like myself for it but, really, he potters around on his never-endingbook, she works part-time, they have a lovely home they own outright, ds has a significant amount of his meals paid for...I like to think a large part of my feelings are down to my deep dislike of her h, who really is a twat, but still, what do you think?

OP posts:
festi · 19/08/2011 23:04

it seems the wtc is just a loop hole to ensure fsm is only paid out to people not working.

saladsandwich · 19/08/2011 23:10

i want to read that book!

nakedandangry · 19/08/2011 23:25

eligible.

Op what is the book about? He sounds very afeared of working - that does happen to people. He has got stuck certainly, and what sort of work can he do with his masters, out of interest.

I would be irked by the FSMs probably, but she (your friend) is doing all the (proper) work so it must be some extra pounds in her pocket, so I wouldn't blame her. AND she has this millstone of a ballsack round her neck to put with.

oldraver · 19/08/2011 23:29

Sara I dont think anyone is pulling a fast one, its just that you dont seem to have a grasp on how tax credits and FSM works.

I do think there are anomolies like DRcoconut posted. To get FSM you have to have income for Tax Credit Purposes .... of less than £16,200 or thereabouts (not sure of actual figure for this year) BUT you cant get it if you receive WTC.

There are a number of areas of income that are not counted for TC purposes ie Maintenece, Renting a room under the 'Rent a Room scheme'

It must also be remembered that it is possible to have 'income' from sources other than paid work.

oldraver · 19/08/2011 23:31

Have to say I dont think it fair that those who get WTC dont get FSM yet others can who could actually have more income

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TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite · 19/08/2011 23:50

Festi I cut and paste that direct from the website. I checked again after reading your post and its actually the Scottish gov website so maybe only applicable in Scotland and only since April this year.

All Primary 1 pupils in Scotland were entitled to fsm until April 2011, so maybe that is why they changed it.

NettoSuperstar · 19/08/2011 23:53

I worked 16 hours a week and got fsm in my area of Scotland.

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite · 20/08/2011 00:09

Netto yes it seems like its only Scotland that has this.

GypsyMoth · 20/08/2011 01:41

So one of them must be claiming a gateway benefit then??
(ESA,IS,jsa)??

Old racer..... I have a grasp, my dc are ON fsm, I've filled out the form!

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