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To be considering reporting a colleague?

178 replies

missmaryp · 08/08/2011 11:04

I have just recieved an email from a work colleague, from and to a work addres (local authority) and I find it highly offensive. I can't believe in the organisation we work she would send this on. Well I can't believe it's been sent full stop really as I find it racist.

Am I over-reacting to be considering reporting this email?? A big part of me doesn't want to get the lady 'in to trouble', but another part of me is annoyed she would ever think it's ok to forward this.

Here is the email:

YOU SEE MY FRIENDS IT AINT JUST ME WHO IS PISSED RIGHT OFF WITH ALL THESE "CORRECT WAY TO LIVE AND DO AS I SAY NAZIS" TELLING ME WHAT HOW I SHOULD LIVE MY LIFE.

TAKE A READ!

This should be required reading for every man, woman and child in the UK , United States of America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand etc.

"I'm 55+ and I'm Tired"

I'm 65+. Except for brief period in the 50's when I was doing my National Service, I've worked hard since I was 17. Except for some serious health challenges, I put in 50-hour weeks, and didn't call in sick in nearly 40 years. I made a reasonable salary, but I didn't inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, it looks as though retirement was a bad idea, and I'm tired. Very tired.

I'm tired of being told that I have to "spread the wealth" to people who don't have my work ethic. I'm tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.

I'm tired of being told that Islam is a "Religion of Peace," when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family "honour"; of Muslims rioting over some slight offence; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren't "believers"; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for "adultery"; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur'an and Shari'a law tells them to.

I'm tired of being told that out of "tolerance for other cultures" we must let Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries use our oil money to fund mosques and mandrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in Australia, New Zealand, UK, America and Canada, while no one from these countries are allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia or any other Arab country to teach love and tolerance.

I'm tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate.

I'm tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses or stick a needle in their arm while they tried to fight it off?

I'm tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of all parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I'm tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.

I'm really tired of people who don't take responsibility for their lives and actions. I'm tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.

Yes, I'm damn tired. But I'm also glad to be 55+... Because, mostly, I'm not going to have to see the world these people are making. I'm just sorry for my granddaughters and their children.

There is no way this will be widely publicised, unless each of us sends it on!

This is your chance to make a difference.

" I'm 55+ and I'm tired.

If you don't forward this you are part of the problem".

OP posts:
evenlessnarkypuffin · 08/08/2011 17:46

Poland

Feenie · 08/08/2011 17:47

Confused Your Dad fought a war so people could send 'political blurby/drivel' emails?

downtothesea · 08/08/2011 17:47

It's cowardice, that's what it is! Arse-licking fucking cowardice.

Ormirian · 08/08/2011 17:48
Confused

Why so cross?

evenlessnarkypuffin · 08/08/2011 17:49

Don't speak of the Health and Safety Gone Mad conflict. It's still too raw.

Birdsgottafly · 08/08/2011 17:49

downtothesea-i am in my fourties and worked before the anti-discrimination/sexist/racist policies came in, life is better now. I didn't get my education for free, but that is immaterial, i can think for myself, i choose who i am friends with and who i have round my dinner table. I trained in my profession because i have a passion for what i do, i don't or shouldn't have to be subjected to 'fuckwittery' at work, thank f.

downtothesea · 08/08/2011 17:50

think local - act mental

tyler80 · 08/08/2011 17:54

I suppose life would be far better with a 'no-snitching policy'

Then your local council could spend 82 grand scanning their computers for indecent images

Council in indecent images probe

I suppose you could say that nobody should have been offended, after all it wasn't illegal, they could have just deleted them or marked them as spam, the council needn't have spent any money at all.

Pan · 08/08/2011 17:54

it's a bit sad that what started as a discussion on email conduct gets dragged into name-calling and abuse of local authority workers. But it does seem to be the fashion these days.

Birdsgottafly · 08/08/2011 17:55

downtothesea-there are days i wish i didn't have to pass a CRB, i would be quite happy to fight out my principles. The principles that World War II was fought for, to end the sujigation of one group over another based on discriminatory/unfounded policies.

Mind you the people who believe such things in the email, don't fight one to one, they burn out houses with women and children in, in the early hours.

downtothesea · 08/08/2011 17:55

Birds - you can think for yourself - so why did you make your daft Daily Mail/open page/manager warning comment?

Do you seriously advocate that sort of behaviour anywhere in life?

So if that email is fuckwittery, you would advocate disciplining the sender just to assuage your suffering soul? Where's your delete button?

Presumably, you use the off switch when you want to?

Where's your perspective?

RickGhastley · 08/08/2011 18:03

I think you did the right thing OP.

The workplace is no place for this sort of crap. Your collegaue is being paid to work and to comply with the company's rules on email. Instead she is using her work time to peddle her racist personal views, break the rules and offend her colleagues.

If it is a spam message then an investigation will show this to be the case.

What did your boss say about the email?

Birdsgottafly · 08/08/2011 18:12

downtothesea-there was one woman in our office that was Somalian, one member of the team used to leave 'Sun' pages open on her desk, that contained attacks on refugees. It was during the eighties, he also delighted in reading out extracts of how AIDS was a gay disease, but only when the one gay member of the team was in.
I worked in an office environment when it was still acceptable to have semi-naked pictures of women on the walls. It isn't appropriate to air certain views in the workplace, if it offends others and in all the cases i have known, it has been part of an harrassment campaign and utter rubbish. Thankfully now, we no-longer have to be subjected to such ignorance.

Pan · 08/08/2011 18:15

yes Birds I have those memories too.
someone upthread accused me of being PC - well, relatively to what working life was like I'd accept that.

Birdsgottafly · 08/08/2011 18:16

I have to read every email i recieve in work from a work collegue. Why bother with a code of conduct if it isn't applied? The same collegues who expect to be ignored when they are 'having a laugh' are usually the ones who are the back biters when it suits, ime.
The OP does not saty what her role is in the LA, if for example the work collegue was a SW, they would be breaking SW values, so it becomes even more serious.

Ephiny · 08/08/2011 18:32

Another reason there are rules about use of email at work is that while these things might be harmless enough circulating around the office, there's the potential for them to get forwarded on to external email addresses, with much ensuing embarassment for the company. I've seen this happen in my previous job, someone sends out a silly 'joke' email to a few colleagues, then before they know it, someone's forwarded it to a friend at another firm, then it's all over the City and their bosses are not seeing the funny side.

Maybe it's different in the public sector, but I would think reputation and public image are still important to some extent.

Like I said, I'm not particularly offended by this sort of thing, and if it was sent to my personal email by a friend or relative, I'd just do a Hmm face and ignore/delete. But at work it's really not appropriate or professional.

AuntieMaggie · 08/08/2011 18:42

Worth reporting incase your IT dept come across it in your email and it causes issues for you down the line - our email is routinely scanned and people have been sacked for some stuff because it was inappropiate for the public sector and breached our policy.

activate · 08/08/2011 18:44

No I'd be offended to receive it and certainly be willing to report it

SauvignonBlanche · 08/08/2011 18:59

I'd be highly offended if I received this.

downtothesea · 08/08/2011 19:13

Tyler compares the email to paedophilia! Twerp. No perspective.
Birds recalls a couple of very unpleasant incidents so her response is to censor the activities of everybody, forever. No perspective.
This is totalitarianism you're advocating - old Labour is still about then, I see in LA world.
I know all you guys work in the public sector and it really fucking worries me that you all sound the same and that you have power over people's lives because it's quite clear that you've all lost your sense of justice and perspective.
Have none of you ever broken any workplace policies - no matter how trivial or minor?
Let's have the truth - seen as you're all such honest, holier than thou folks?
Which of you is without sin? And I mean it - say if you are.

mouthwash7 · 08/08/2011 19:14

I find most of these chain emails offensive - have no idea why people risk their jobs circulating them. One of the companies I worked for regularly audited computers to see exactly how much time everyone had spent not working. Emails were most definitely not private.

Personally I would be wary about making complaints in future - I did once, over something much more serious than this, leading to the whole of the staff sending me to coventry and refusing to cooperate with me.

My advice would be to keep very quiet about reporting it - tell noone.

Pan · 08/08/2011 19:24

downtothesea - you don't even sound like an adult. Just a yelling, angry little child, with your daft little slogan that means nothing. I for one can't be arsed with you.

tyler80 · 08/08/2011 19:24

downtothesea if you'd read the article correctly you'd see that none of the inappropriate images were deemed illegal, so nothing to do with paedophiles at all. They were images that could be deemed offensive, in the same way that the written word could be deemed offensive.

downtothesea · 08/08/2011 19:31

fuck off pan - twat

malum in se or malum prohibitum - look it up - lesson for drones

Birdsgottafly · 08/08/2011 19:33

downtothesea-i have recalled acouple of memories but this sort of thing happened daily. People, yes usually minority groups because they were targeted, were forced out of the workplace, the stress wasn't worth it.
I don't know where you get your Old Labour analogy from, my background is white SA and i have witnessed first hand how much damage can be done with bigotry. Certain behaviour cannot and should not be allowed in the workplace. Yes i hope it will be censored forever, why shouldn't it be. Unless we make it mandatory that everyone educate themselves then we need the restriction on those that are talking rubbish and spreading hatred.