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To argue about pronunciation of garage

123 replies

Jugglingjemima · 31/07/2011 12:07

I say garridge. Dp gets annoyed with this. He says garaje. I think that is French. I have asked him about what people enter into following a wedding. A marraje? I have asked him how the Queen travels on state occasions? In a carraje? Please clear this up before he gets into a raje, and I get into a ridge. (I have never had a garaje, nor a garridge, but sometimes I have had to take a car to a garridge)
(Don't say it doesn't matter; I have been practically housebound for the last two weeks)

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MrsBaggins · 31/07/2011 17:51

He isnt even remotely posh btw !

MrsBaggins · 31/07/2011 17:52

Mind you we did have a friend who called a mirror - a looking glass !

valiumredhead · 31/07/2011 17:55

MrsB my grandmother used to call mirrors looking glasses!

ragged · 31/07/2011 18:12

I can say both, prefer the American pronunciation & trying to revert to it every time (Ga RAJ).

kickassangel · 31/07/2011 18:27

I say gar-arj
i find gar-idge annoying, but just assume it's a different accent.

yanks say gar-AHHHHHHHJ (emphasis on 2nd syllable)

the 1st british way is using a longer vowel sound, so perhaps seems lazy to your dh?

for now though, i suggest you take the car to 'be repaired' rather than start up the whole sorry argument?
and buy petrol from the petrol station?

your other examples, e.g. marriage etc, are spelt differently, so not really a fair comparison.

other words with 'age' also vary - dressage, message, collage, adage etc. none of them pronounced 'age' though.

Psammead · 31/07/2011 18:36

Garage is interesting, linguistically.

It's a fairly recent borrowing from French. French words most often have emphasis on the second syllable - garAAGE. The word was originally pronounced so in English. Your grandparents' generation may still insist on saying it like this.

Over time the stress has changed to the more typical English way until it has become GARidge. Interestingly, there was also a brief intermediate period - perhaps still heard in people around 60ish years of age - who levelled out the stress GAR-IGE.

There is some historical evidence that this has happened in most French borrowings over time, for example 'BALcony' would have originally been 'balCOny', but garage is one of the few words where we actually have sound-recorded evidence for the whole shift.

DontGoCurly · 31/07/2011 18:38

It's gar-ridge of course.

Gar-raje is an affectation.

TheMagnificentBathykolpian · 31/07/2011 19:09

Tawrag, I'd say say it the english way if you're english and in england but don't tell people they are wrong for pronouncing it the french way!

Pareee? Pareeee? what are you on about? It's Parisss. sssssss. cos, like I'm english and I said so. Grin I think not.

tawrag · 31/07/2011 21:43

I agree, magnificent. This would suggest, logically, that it's also OK to say garage in an English way when speaking English. Wink. But maybe logic doesn't come into it.

saladsandwich · 31/07/2011 22:24

its garidge, if i said garaje where i lived i would probably get a slap off my own family :d

BodyUnknown · 31/07/2011 22:31

I say gar-aje with almost equal emphasis on both syllables but slightly heavier on the first (26, from Oxford) but all my friends, colleagues and university co-graduates say garridge, emphasising the first syllable. GarRAJE is American/Canadian.

For what it's worth, I feel uncomfortable saying it my way out loud as people say it's posh and affected, but 'garridge' just doesn't come naturally to me!

No comparison with marriage, rage etc.

blueshoes · 31/07/2011 22:34

garridge is so wrong. Makes my teeth itch.

MrsHicks · 31/07/2011 22:43

I'm amazed at all the people who claim, with certain authority, that one pronunciation is 'an affectation'! If you are brought up with a certain pronunciation, simply because that is how something is pronounced where you were raised regardless of class or anything else, then it is not affected. Wow.

monoid · 31/07/2011 23:19

It's garridge as far as I'm concerned. That one doesn't nark me so much though. I get annoyed when people say mirrow to mean mirror. I don't even understand that!
I have also recently had a (jest filled) argument with a friend about the letter H and the word "almond". He says all-mund and I say are-mund. Any views welcomed :)

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sparkleshine · 01/08/2011 02:43

wow
striking debate!

BUT I couldn't read without posting...I say

garridge,
bath with short 'a',
eeeither and iyther
boat is said like bought....
Where/there/hair is said like 'her'
Don't think I say petrol station/garridge, just that I'm going for petrol

Iteotwawki · 01/08/2011 05:32

Garage to rhyme with massage, emphasis on 1st syllable. Not affected, just how my mother said it. Also seems to be how everyone here pronounces it.

Bath with the "ah" type a.

H as in "aitch" (autocorrects to 'witch', interestingly)

Almond as in "no thanks, I'm allergic to nuts" :)

shocked2 · 01/08/2011 07:49

hi - I'm with bodyunknown and Iteotwawki - I say garaje but with more emphasis on the first syllable - I don't think it's an affectation either, just the way I heard it being pronounced.... My father is English but we lived abroad so my sister and I grew up in an expatriate community which means that I didn't have a regional accent as such. Have now lived in London for 15 years and I'm sure my accent has changed but still say "garaje"....

Whatmeworry · 01/08/2011 07:51

Put the kah in the grudge

tawrag · 01/08/2011 07:57

imogen, don't you mean "oop north"? I should know; I'm from there too. Wink

biddysmama · 01/08/2011 08:01

garridge, i am very northern tho Grin

ZillionChocolate · 01/08/2011 08:14

Garridge for me.

Where do you stand on theatre? I've never understood where thee-etterrr comes from.

shocked2 · 01/08/2011 08:39

yes I think thee-etterrr is weird too Grin - I say thee-a-ter...