AIBU to ask the doc to drug my 4 yr old child up?

[mum0ftw0]

because I am literally going to have a heart attack if I have to listen to um uh tuh tuh ugh urg ah ah umt umt any longer.

He constantly appears to be in distress and aggitation.

He screams 'NO FUCK OFF' at people saying hello.

Even the way he breaths makes me want to go hide in a cupboard right now.

Do they drug children up in this country? I think any type of relaxation drug would be perfect.

AIBU to try getting him on meds to calm him the * down, (before I lose my mind)???

Op - instead of drugs what about complimentary therapies such as homeopathy, back flower remedies, reki, etc? These can all help. .

I apologise for being flippant earlier op.

I hope you get some rl support soon. I have felt like this before with my ds, and he is just teething, I can't begin to imagine how hard it must be to look after dcs with sn.

I wish you luck and a nice bath.

Zimm may I be the first to offer a derisory but light-hearted comment?

My autistic son can't abide even having his hair brushed or washed let alone cut due to sensory-processing disorder. Sounds, sights, touch and smells feel very different to him.

I don't know whether to laugh or weep at the idea of aromatherapy / Reiki for an autistic child.

Which is not to say that they do not have their place. Wish I could have something like that!

Diet might be a good thing to look at though. I have pm'd you, Mumoftwo.

Infestation - Reiki isn't necessarily touching, it can be hands off, IME (I don't practise it, just what's been done to me). Agree aromatherapy could be potentially disastrous but Zimm didn't mention that. Bach flower remedies might help to calm extreme distress, it works pretty well on NT people but don't know about SN (have calmed an entire class of hysterical women with rescue remedy before now)

LadyF even as a parent of a child with autism I'm not sure of the exact definition between having a child with special needs / special educational needs. The lines blur and cross.

SN may mean that teachers need to know where the child is coming from even though they may be averagely or very able educationally speaking. SEN is all to do with learning as in, special educational needs.

But NT means "neuro-typical", that I do know.

Happy to be corrected.

Thanks Thumbs, would love to hear more about the entire class of hysterical women!

Many children with ASD only have to hear something ONCE to pick it up and use it over and over and over again.

Some have ultra sensitive hearing ( no not magical powers just very sensitive) I have known children to pick up conversations going on on the other side of the room and repeat back word for word.

I work with children up to about 4.

So a child with ASD saying FUCK OFF is not exactly shocking. I am suprised more dont do it.

infestation my DS didnt get Dx till he was 7 with three different conditions. I was on the case from when he was newborn. Still took that long and work for the same authority that eventually diagnosed him.

Infestation - it was amazing, you know the scenes of group hysteria that you see at pop concerts for the Beatles and probably Take That (I've only really seen it in footage of the Beatles concerts)? It was like that - one or two started and then all the rest joined in - it was Exam Fear. At least 3 of them were actually in tears, more than one was hyperventilating (thankfully no one actually fainted) - so I dosed them all (blind) with a stronger form of Rescue Remedy and they all calmed down (and then at least 3/4 of them went and bought some for themselves).

All these kids who have never heard a swear word. Typical FUCKING mumsnet.

Hope you get the help you need OP.

my dd was just like this, i honestly thought i was going to have to throw myself or her off something she is asd text book i suppose some would say, was an amazingly good baby no crying except for when hungry, happy to entertain herself, lining things up in order of colour and size etc. by 2 and a half she could log in to the computer type in cbbebeies and play the games on there for hours (i thought she was obviously a computer genius).
her speech did kick in till she was about six so we did have the swearing but we had the melt downs the screaming the hitting the head butting the floor the biting the running in the road and just general demon child behaviour. we had a very early diagnoses so that helped but she was basically written off by the school as ssn and would never be able to learn properly but i fought to have her placed in a special unit attached to the school.
she is now there best pupil, she is amazingly well behaved, obviously she is still autistic but she deals with her situations so well now everyone comments to me that they can not believe it is the same child i honestly dont know if it was the unit or finally the hard work at home clicked and paid off or both but dont give up and dont let other people tell you your child is a lost cause, because they can come out of the other side of this behaviour.
hugs to you at this time because i know its a total fucking nightmare.

What help are you getting OP, apart from a SW?

You sound like you need respite and a bit more help. If you post on the SN board people might be a bit less judgy and a lot more knowledgable :)

MrsDeVere, I do know how hard it is and how obstructive some professionals can be. I did apologise for my harsh comment but possibly not effectively enough.

I suppose that I was "lucky" in that my DS was considered classically autistic at two. Now at four and I must say, no thanks to the people involved other than having an understanding of him, I really would struggle to get a dx for him other than the usual, "bad parenting" / spoilt / pandered to

There is another boy at his pre-school who is DS, almost exactly. Even down to the way the two boys produce artwork, yet he is going to mainstream and his mother is being told such things as, "inappropriate lifestyle, undesirable parenting" because she is single and lives in a 1-bed flat (as did I with DD once) and doesn't have the support or access to information to realise that her son should be going where my DS will be in September with the school buses, horse-riding, five children to each year group and on-site swimming pool.

wrote long reply and it went pffft!

Your DS's school sound fab. It was only once I got DS into the right provision (after two years of MS) I realised just how bloody stressful the whole thing had been.

There was a culture of low expectation at his old school. They simply thought that their catchment area was full of dysfunctional and disinterested families therefore why would the children be able to read and write?

It was appalling and the inclusion manager couldnt even be bothered to hide his shock that I was able to speak on his level (which was full of bollocky jargon) and that I worked in education/SN.

I know there are children left at that school who will not get a dx or support until they get to secondary and their issues will be impossible to ignore. I know for a fact that one parent was told that they 'were not allowed to statement children under 9' by the SENCO.

I most certainly did not suggest aromatherapy! That would be a bit mental. But rescue remedy yes, fantastic for calming people and yes, reki can be done hands off. DD has hands off reki all the time - brill for getting her to go to sleep.It was just a thought. Got to be worth a try before the drugs surely? Hope you get some support OP, it sounds tough.

Sorry Zimm , you didn't suggest that at all and good to know that Reiki can be hands-off. I'll look into that. Tried cranial osteopathy when DS was still sleepless at a year old but no joy.

Good point about the echolalia too. Repeating a heard (even once) phrase is very common. Not indicative of foul-mouthed parents AT ALL.

Mrs DV, at bollocksy jargon but it is very sad that so many children are left to flounder. It helps nobody, not the parents who will have constant inappropriate demands from school, the child OR the other children in the class when MS school isn't suitable.

at "not allowed to statement children under nine" OMG!

Not all kids with ASD are the same, aromatherapy would work really well for my DD