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AIBU to ask the doc to drug my 4 yr old child up?

67 replies

mum0ftw0 · 21/07/2011 14:39

because I am literally going to have a heart attack if I have to listen to um uh tuh tuh ugh urg ah ah umt umt any longer.

He constantly appears to be in distress and aggitation.

He screams 'NO FUCK OFF' at people saying hello.

Even the way he breaths makes me want to go hide in a cupboard right now.

Do they drug children up in this country? I think any type of relaxation drug would be perfect.

AIBU to try getting him on meds to calm him the * down, (before I lose my mind)???

OP posts:
Pin0t · 21/07/2011 15:02

Ooh thats clever!

squeakytoy · 21/07/2011 15:03

Where is he hearing this "colourful" language at such an early age?

I think you would have had a more sympathetic response to your post by the way, if you had posted what you have just said first, rather than not clearly explaining that your child is under professional investigation for his problems.

I would also say that there are other boards on Mumsnet which would be a much better place to go than this, where posters specialise in helping with behavioural problems too.

DooinMeCleanin · 21/07/2011 15:03

It sounds hard Op. Will you get any more support when the dx on Autism comes through?

I think maybe you would be better posting, in full, on the SN board. Your first post didn't really explain what is going on and certainly didn't paint you in a good light.

WriterofDreams · 21/07/2011 15:04

Oh you poor thing Mum, I've taught a lot of kids like your DS and it is bloody knackering. Unfortunately there are no drugs to sort out his behaviour, he needs a proper assessment and support from school but it'll be a long time before he gets that I'm sad to say. I know how utterly wearing it can be. You have my sympathy.

TheLadyEvenstar · 21/07/2011 15:04

Grin TY Pinot

WriterofDreams · 21/07/2011 15:05

By the way as you can see you'll get a lot of mockery here. Perhaps you should repost in the Special Needs topic?

TheLadyEvenstar · 21/07/2011 15:06

OP, you have my sympathies really.

I am about to lock send DS1 in the cupboard his room if he doesn't leave stop annoying the fuck DS2 and shouting.

Pagwatch · 21/07/2011 15:06

I am not sure that any drugs work especially well with asd.

my DS2 was like yours at that age - except for the swearing.

it is immensely difficult to deal with but I am not sure drugging him will help.

why don't you post a sensible enquiry on the sn section which has lots of very supportive parents in a similar situation rather than posting an inflamatory and not terribly helpful post in the most difficult section on the whole of the forum.

that is if you want help and support

TheLadyEvenstar · 21/07/2011 15:07

Writer, sometimes the mockery is light hearted to help diffuse the situation slightly. and sometimes it helps!!

thefirstMrsDeVere · 21/07/2011 15:09

You need respite.

However attractive sedation seems its not really the answer. I understand why you want it though.

Do you have any respite (I think I know the answer), do you have access to any support?

What area do you live in, can we help you find services?

WriterofDreams · 21/07/2011 15:10

Really LadyEvenstar? Mum is at the end of her tether and you handing out popcorn so others can watch and laugh at her is going to help?

flaminglip · 21/07/2011 15:10

jesus mum0ftw0 - i've worked with SN and in MH for years and your boy sounds textbook. Why only a "probable" diagnosis though?

i completely understand your reaction.

poor you.

altinkum · 21/07/2011 15:12

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michelleseashell · 21/07/2011 15:14

I completely understand your frustration. I want to push pencils in my ears some days because I can't stand the noise my son makes.

Hey, what about drugs for you? If you can't drug him up, maybe you could have something so you don't mind the racket so much. What about a little tot of gin of a morning?

TheLadyEvenstar · 21/07/2011 15:14

Writer, I posted the popcorn before the second post from the OP. x-posted.

I know how hard it is have been doing this for 9yrs now. And yes sometimes a little light humour can help.

Lougle · 21/07/2011 15:15

mum0ftw0 I won't flame you Sad

The answer to your question is no, they won't drug your child for you.

There are drugs for certain diagnosed disorders, which can help children, but the medical profession are very reluctant to use them before the age of 6, usually.

Having said that, if your DS is having very disturbed nights' sleep, then a Paediatrician can prescribe Melatonin, which is a natural hormone we all produce, to give the signal to sleep to your child.

When DD1 was young, I found the sleep deprivation drove me to the edge. Now, she has melatonin, so no matter how bad the day is, or the early hours, we know she will sleep in the first part of the evening.

Don't despair, it will all come together. DD1 was very disruptive at preschool (although being a girl, most was accepted because she was 'cute'). We were refused a Core Assessment with SS, despite them witnessing her sprinkling sand in her baby sister's eyes. We despaired. She is now in an excellent Special School, we finally have a Social Worker, and in fact, she has settled so well at school (behaviour still very challenging at home) that the SW said 'in fact, you might wonder why she has a Statement'. Now, the SW was being a bit tongue-in-cheek, as she has lots of difficulties, but she really is settled and doing well in the school, to the extent that her Statement can read of a different child.

TheLadyEvenstar I am shocked at your post. You have had plenty of popcorn worthy posts in the past, yet you have been well supported. How sad that you would jump on the bandwagon when a parent is obviously at the end of her tether with the demands of raising a child with SN unsupported Sad

InfestationofLannisters · 21/07/2011 15:15

Why are you waiting for a dx of probable autism?

YABU to not be pro-active and use this internet thingy in order to research it. My DS is four and very challenging but I had him diagnosed at the age of 2.9 on the very first Paed appointment due to the notes and observations I had written, and he subsequently got the help he needed.

I know how you feel, it's terrible. DS sleeps like a newborn baby. Four years of it. I am less able to cope because of that.

But there is so much information available these days.

Definitely post on SN.

ThumbsNoseAtSnapewitch · 21/07/2011 15:17

OK, second post reveals far more important info.

I don't think there is a drug that will help him although some might suggest Ritalin; if he is autistic or ASD, then it is going to be very difficult for all of you but you should get help from the SENCO and hopefully your GP - but I would also advise you to get this thread moved onto the SN board very quickly.

Sorry that you are having such a tough time with him and sorry to have been short with you previously - although maybe you knew what you were likely to get by posting that OP in AIBU?

Please ask for the thread to be moved.

Lougle · 21/07/2011 15:17

I started writing that post at 15.01 Hmm I still stand by my comment, but didn't read others who had said it also.

TheLadyEvenstar · 21/07/2011 15:18

Lougle and have had popcorn handed out on some as well.

My popcorn was a x-post. By the time I had posted it the OP had explained the full situation.

I have also posted to say I understand how she feels.

InfestationofLannisters · 21/07/2011 15:18

Okay that was a bit forthright. Apologies. It's the lack of sleep and the screaming and DS demanding a BF as I fecking well TYPE Angry

Lougle · 21/07/2011 15:19

TLE - you don't even have to read the second post to tell that this child has SN. It screams out.

Pin0t · 21/07/2011 15:19

Oh bloody hell I xposted with the second post. Now I've made myself look a right twat. Still think the popcorn buckets were clever though. LadyE & I mean no harm.

itisnearlysummer · 21/07/2011 15:38

Where has he heard "Fuck Off"?

My DD is 4 and prone to rather angry outbursts. (No SN, just a very willful girl) and I don't think she'd even know those words.

I do get the frustration though.

nulgirl · 21/07/2011 15:42

My dd has heard some rather choice expressions thanks to the little darlings at her pre-school. She is a complete grass though and always tells the teachers. My ds (NT) on the other hand repeats everything he hears with great pleasure. Unless you live a very sheltered life, kids get exposed to things from very young

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