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...thinking that this could be grounds for divorce and I might have married a total waste of space?

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MummyCubed · 19/07/2011 15:48

Hi everyone, wondered what you think about this one (bit long I know!):
The day before yesterday I was not feeling well at all and ended up being sick all day, DH decided to go out with his friends anyway which I was sort-of fine with although it would have been nice to have had the help at home with the kids. Yesterday I ended up in hospital because of an asthma attack (not sure if this was related because the other seemed more tummy-bug like, but they did pretty much coincide). When I told him on Blackberry Messenger that I wasn't feeling well and had gone to hospital, he read it immediately but ignored it. I assumed it was because he was busy at work but then when he got home he ignored a subsequent message, as well as three phone calls over the space of five hours. I also left a non-naggy, matter-of-fact voicemail about how bad I was feeling. They let me go early in the morning and I feel a lot better today. However I am very upset that DH chose to ignore the fact I was in hospital, and then came up with the lame excuse that "his phone battery died" - this is blatantly not true, as not only does blackberry messenger show a different symbol when the message is read, but his phone was ringing, NOT straight to voicemail (apart from one of the times, which came up "Busy". He then had the cheek to say to me that I should stop worrying about the fact he hadn't called me and that something bad could have happened to him! Although I'm trying to rationalise it all I can't really think of a good enough reason why you would completely ignore your wife (or anyone, come to that) who is in hospital, however minor or major it was.
It's not as if we'd had a raging argument or something. In fact, we never argue, mainly because I can't stand his arguing style and have become resigned to just letting things go. Things have been "lukewarm" (for want of a better word) between us for about six months now, it started about New Year's. He claims to always be "busy" especially at work (although he used to call me and send messages constantly from work, as well as take time to mess about looking things up on the internet - don't get me wrong I don't need constant messages, I'm just saying he used to be much more attentive) and now seems generally disinterested in me and the kids. Every time I ask him what's wrong he tells me nothing or that he's not in the mood to talk. We now spend most evenings in different rooms, he prefers to eat reading the paper in the study than with me and the kids. He's also incredibly authoritarian with them, always had that streak but worse now. When I tell him to back off he says I'm "undermining" him, although he actually undermines people all the time. To be honest I've been thinking of leaving for a while now, yet every time I bring it up he says everything's fine and to concentrate on good times blah blah blah. When we had a trial breakup for a week a few months ago he sent soppy love messages all day (that I later found out were copied and pasted from the internet!!) But then the old behaviour returned after two weeks. I think this finally takes the biscuit, don't you? :-(

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MummyCubed · 19/07/2011 16:30

Yes but most of them are increasingly in the past tense!(sigh) ...he used to be romantic and was very happy about being a dad, and was usually sorry after arguing...
I'm amazed how a person can change so much. True some of these traits were always there, but the good outweighed the bad. Unfortunately I still care, which is what makes it so hard.

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lazarusb · 19/07/2011 16:30

He sounds uncaring and selfish to me. I would ask him to leave. I think you'll be happier without him.

bigwombat · 19/07/2011 16:31

Sounds a bit like Aspergers to me: eg friends describing him as awkward, poor empathy, poor communication skills, unusual sleeping habits, but then I don't know him obviously! I would be very bothered by the ignoring you in hospital. He needs to explain himself satisfactorily and make amends asap. What did your Mum think of his behaviour?

MummyCubed · 19/07/2011 16:34

What I don't get is that he's always been very in touch with his OWN feelings, yet he fails to see why his behaviour is upsetting. Has anyone else had experience of this sleeping thing? I mean he's not a teenager any more, so can't blame it on growing and blah ;-)
My mum thought it was pathetic behaviour on his part, but then again she's never been too keen on him.

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ImperialBlether · 19/07/2011 16:34

Could he be having an affair and using his phone to chat to her (in either voice or text) whilst pretending to be asleep?

On the basis of what you've said in your OP, though, I would leave him. You can't rely on him in a crisis and not only that, you are criticised for not worrying about him when you are in hospital.

This is not a nice man and he's not a good example to the children.

Having said all that, I think a change of behaviour in this way usually indicates an affair. Count yourself lucky if someone else is interested, and get rid.

ImperialBlether · 19/07/2011 16:35

This is why you should listen to your mum before you marry someone! (Assuming she's lovely and has your own best interests at heart.)

MummyCubed · 19/07/2011 16:36

ImperialBlether, that was the bit that put the lid on it, the fact he criticised me for not worrying about HIM! How self-centred is that??

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JamieAgain · 19/07/2011 16:37

That is weird.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 19/07/2011 16:39

Is he the father or your children?

AllQuietOnThePippisFront · 19/07/2011 16:41

I would suggest to look into depression and asperger, if an affair is out of the question. I have experience with both and could be an explanation.

StewieGriffinsMom · 19/07/2011 16:43

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JamieAgain · 19/07/2011 16:43

Unfortunately, I think it would be an incredibly uphill battle to get him to acknowledge either of these, if you've still got any goodwill left in you to try .....

Ephiny · 19/07/2011 16:43

You were in hospital and he had a go at you for not worrying about whether he was all right? That's very, very odd behaviour IMO.

It's up to you if you want to leave/divorce or not, but to me it doesn't sound like the two of you have a relationship any more, beyond living in the same house. He won't talk to you or spend any time with you, he makes a point of eating in a separate room from the rest of the family, you're admitted to hospital and he doesn't bother to come or even call to find out how you are...it is not looking good. It's a question of whether you're content to go on living separate lives in a shared house, or if it would be better to separate properly. Or maybe you can resolve things somehow - but that would require him to be willing to talk.

Wouldn't be surprised if he was having an affair - what with the distant behaviour and being 'busy' with work all the time, but either way something has gone badly wrong.

MummyCubed · 19/07/2011 16:48

Whenever I try to talk, he either denies there's a problem or starts shouting (sigh).
An affair seems the logical explanation for the distant behaviour - and you're never too busy to call at some point, so that's obv just an excuse - but I find it difficult to imagine given his personality. Of course, you never know!

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TheOriginalFAB · 19/07/2011 16:50

Is it possible he is ill?

He shouts at the kids.
He plays no part in family meals.
He doesn't care that you were in hospital.
He puts things back on to you (though tbh I would have wondered if something had happened to DH if I had told him I was in hospital and got no response.)

He worries about his father.

I know which list I think should be longer.

Talking about his ex makes me wonder if he is happy.

ShoutyHamster · 19/07/2011 16:53

Wow, horrid man.

Yes leave - because you're 99% there anyway and this is proof, if you needed it, that he doesn't give a stuff about you.

No loss, as he sounds a complete and utter, as you say, waste of space.

Whereas you sound nice, level headed and the kind of person who would enjoy being happy and unstressed for a change :) :) :) so GO!

MummyCubed · 19/07/2011 16:54

Well I pretty much knew he was alright as he was reading the messages, the little "read" symbol came up...the phone has a password so very unlikely the person reading them wasn't him.
I don't think he is ill, as far as I can tell, I think he's just unhappy, and mainly with the relationship, but I just don't see why in that case he won't admit he wants to call it quits.

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Roomfor1more · 19/07/2011 16:55

Depression is jumping out at me from reading your OP then again thats not an excuse for ignoring the fact you were in hospital or that he didn't bother with the kids.
He doesn't sound like a happy camper. Maybe leaving subtle hints to go to a councellor might be an idea. I wouldn't walk out the door just yet but I would sit him down and ask him to explain some of what is up with him. Can you ask any of his mates?? Are they the approachable types or do they close ranks when it comes to mates??

Roomfor1more · 19/07/2011 16:58

Sorry I didn't see your second last post. Ah look play him at his own game and just get on with your life, he's baggage your or your family don't need!! Call his bluff and go. See how he copes then? Good luck in whatever you do, you come across as lovely and its his loss! :)

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33goingon64 · 19/07/2011 17:00

Tell him you both need counselling. If he refuses, leave him.

MummyCubed · 19/07/2011 17:03

I'm even more annoyed that he didn't care at all about the kids, had my mum not picked them up what would he have done, just sat at home?? I don't understand why he's not even remotely sorry, he used to acknowledge mistakes but as I already said it's now either silence or practically one-sided shouting match.
I spoke to a couple of his mates that are pretty friendly with me about a month back and both of them told me he hadn't said anything untoward, but he probably wouldn't tell mutual friends much in case it found its way back to me. He's one of those people that never gives a straight answer unless he wants to, so it would be difficult for them to guess something was up. I'm thinking about having a word with his dad, but not sure if it's appropriate.
Thank you ShoutyHamster (love the name!) - just the encouraging boost I needed!

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FuzzpigFourFiveSix · 19/07/2011 17:06

I'm thinking affair too TBH.

I would say sorry about that, but in a way it doesn't matter if he is or not because either way he's being an absolute cunt.

MummyCubed · 19/07/2011 17:06

I'm not sure whether it would be best to leave or to ask him to leave.

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Ephiny · 19/07/2011 17:10

I think it depends on the children - they should stay in the family home and have the minimum disruption to their lives. And presumably if you split it would make sense for the children to be with you rather than him, as he shows so little interest in them other than to shout at. So seems like you should be the one to stay.

I'm guessing he doesn't want to talk about or end things because it's just 'easier' and less effort to carry on the way you are. But he must realise this situation isn't making either of you happy (and I'm guessing not the children either).

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