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AIBU?

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to be fuming about my FIL and his easily solved problems!

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hellospoon · 11/07/2011 09:55

This is going to be a long one so bare with me.
My FIL lives in a 1 bedroomed over 55's gated community, due to problems with my MIL (another thread) he has my 2 BIL's living with him they are 17 + 21 they do drugs, they drink, don't work or provide a single penny to earn their keep totally scrounge of my FIL. The flat is disgusting and isn't fit for a dog to live in, FIL has been told several times that the boys need to move out as he is breaking the terms of his rental having them both there.

Now back in march FIL went to the doctors about a growth in his privates, it turned out to be cancerous, which has been treated and last week he was given the all clear. Huge relief for everyone most of all him, now me and dp asked FIL to come and live with us. We have the space and really thought this situation required action to be taken to protect his health and to get him out of the pit he lives in.

In december last year FIL took redundancy and got a 20k payout, we were having some issues regarding our housing, and about to be made homeless, FIL lent us £2500 to cover everything we needed to move into a house, ie deposit. Months rent and finalising of old bills and also to get our car fixed, we agreed we would pay him back during 2011 which would provide him with a small income each month, it is now july and he has spent all his redundancy money, all he has to show for it is a washing machine and a cooker. The rest has been spent on drugs, fags and beer and his rent which is £50 a week.
This is the problem: FIL is very depressed and cannot leave his flat for more than hour without having a panic attack, he has been signing on for the last few weeks and is in the process of applying for housing/council tax benefits, he still has the boys with him and has given them 1 months notice to find somewhere else to live (this won't happen). Yesterday he phoned my dp and said he had no food no money and is a week behind on his rent and he wants all of the money we owe him.

Now we have an agreement to pay him back monthly, I am not working at the minute as I am retraining and we barely break even each month. I totally lost my patience with him last night, iv basically told him he needs to get a grip and accept my help in sorting his dire situation out before he is made homeless. So today I have made him a doctors appointment to get ad's for his depression + anxiety, I am taking him to the job centre to sign on, then to the housing office to find out what is happening with his benefits, and then to asda to buy him food. I have refused to just hand over money when he is just going to buy fags and booze for the boys! Aibu to do this?

I have offered him so much help and all I get is oh your not related to me so I don't want to! Aibu to be really fed up of my dp taking the slack for his family?? What else can I do except from getting tough with him?!

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hellospoon · 12/07/2011 11:42

rainbow he is already on that spiral, unfortunately I am not prepared to have him living in my home I have to think of my dd and what he brings to the door is not something suitable, if I let him live with us I won't be able to childmind as he will fail the crb check and I would leave myself open to damaging my dd's life.

We have taken him in previously and he will not stick to the rules
Social services won't do anything as he is 17.

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Birdsgottafly · 12/07/2011 12:18

He has to present to the council as homeless, then, as advised in my earlier post.

TBH i think that you should try to get to a welfare advice organisation, they will help with everything.

rainbowtoenails · 12/07/2011 12:27

Are social services involved with fil? Sounds like he needs some.

hellospoon · 12/07/2011 13:23

No not involed, dp's aunty is a social worker and she has tried to get the right team involved but they just don't have the resources to help, it is so frustrating.

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Birdsgottafly · 12/07/2011 13:39

If you FIL is diagnosed with anexiety or depression then it will come under MH not adult services, so he may find support that way. It will help his claim for ESA/HB/CT as he can use his vunerability as a reason to why he has let this situation happen.

Is there any question of dementia or similar starting? Or do you think that it is the combined pressure of fighting cancer, him drinking again and his DS's drug using?

hellospoon · 12/07/2011 13:57

I have no idea about dementia, and wouldn't know the signs even if they were infront of me!

The doctor has signed him off as depressed, we are going to get everything sorted for his new application and I am going to stress that he wasn't capable of dealing with it all himself, not sure if I can put myself forward as his representative or does he need to appoint me?

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HowlingBitch · 12/07/2011 14:00

I would be getting him checked for Alzheimer's too. Here are some signs HTH.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 12/07/2011 14:01

What a nightmare! He spent that money fast!

Birdsgottafly · 12/07/2011 14:02

He needs to appoint you, that isn't a problem, he just signs to say so. It should really be a run on from his original application, unless they gave him a response time and he didn't get back in touch, so get that clarified. Keep evidence of everything.

You need to get your DH onboard as this may be alot to take on, he isn't going to get better quickly and if he is drinking, his depression is going to get worse.

The first thing is to get his DS's out of the equation, not to be harsh, but they cannot stay in his flat, then start to tackle his health/MH problems.

Birdsgottafly · 12/07/2011 14:04

I used the term dementia but in the Elderly it includes Alzheimers, you would need the involvement of the Elderly Mental Health team (EMI), i think that he would benefit from this, once the DS's are gone, the GP can make a referal.

Birdsgottafly · 12/07/2011 14:07

Just to add the reason i said that was because those that have been long term drinkers are very likely to develop dementia but it is sometimes mistaken for depression. This could have led to him allowing the situation with his DS's not the other way round.

hellospoon · 12/07/2011 14:33

Ok, I will have a look at that link. I also think I'm going to show dp this thread as there is some fantastic advice on here.

I am also going to speak to dps aunt as she is very good in times of crisis aswell so as a joint effort we can get him sorted. once the boys are out of his flat I am pretty sure everything else will fall into place

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