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Bloody W**NKing Tax credits! Or Government should I say

513 replies

Hai1988 · 06/07/2011 16:59

Just had my new tax credits award and have just found out that my DH's Working tax credits are being stopped as he has already had his lot for this year, £800!!!

My DH does not have a very well payed job at all and after rent and bills we have f**K all left and the weekly income of £140 really helped that is now just over £50.

So angry We need that extra £80 a week, I know it may not sound much to some but it did make a big difference to out life's.

Who ever voted Tory I hope your happy with yourselves that now so many family's are probably gonna struggle now.

Sorry not really an aibu but really needed to vent and wondered if anyone else is suffering with tax credits this year because of the dam government.

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Glitterknickaz · 06/07/2011 23:50

Oh come on.... sustainable benefits are the tip of the iceberg!

janey68 · 06/07/2011 23:58

Joy- non working parents are a very recent phenomenon; right through history most mums and dads have worked. NOT wanting to go to work is no justification for thinking benefits (or credits or whatever) are an alternative. That money doesn't grow on trees - it is generated by other people working

JoySzasz · 06/07/2011 23:59

Thinking about it ,I guess I too am in favour of a working wage and abolishing all 'benefits'.

Much simpler, jobs should be advertised as such and the employee could then decide if this is what they wanted.

There would be no incentive to have children one could not afford,for those that do take that road.

How on earth this could be put in to action is anyones guess though.

fromtheotherside · 07/07/2011 00:00

The thing is there is no choice is there?
Well not for me, I want to earn money and not expect tax credits!
I just do understand the 'but I want to chat to the other mums when I do the school run'
I WANT to be at home with my DD, I WANTED at least a year at home with her.
Most of all I WANT to be able to provide for my family, and not worry.
I have absolutely no problems with benefits, tax credits ect for people that find themselves in certain situations.
But expecting tax credits because you what to do the school run?! That's just taking the piss.

JoySzasz · 07/07/2011 00:02

I get that janey but in previous generations it was much easier to manage on one wage.

My parents did, I think there was actually more choice.

JoySzasz · 07/07/2011 00:04

fromtheotherside I don't think it is ever easy is it? :)

We don't know the age of the OP,she might not feel that way in a few years perhaps?

ssd · 07/07/2011 00:07

op, i do get what you;re saying about wanting to be there for your ds as I'm the same, but really you are coming across as a bit pathetic, what about evening/weekend work or something that brings in money? My dh earns the same as yours and i have no family help and earn 5.92 an hour and i have worked in a variety of crap jobs that have always fitted around the kids as i like to do the school gates things too

but i have always worked and in your position you should be working too, if i can do it on NMW and no childcare so can anyone. take a job no one wants to do eg.cleaner/care worker/bar work and get on with it

TheSecondComing · 07/07/2011 00:08

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fromtheotherside · 07/07/2011 00:14

I agree it's not always easy, I already had a job when I was pregnant and took my mat leave and returned.
I get how hard it is to find a job and suitable childcare.
But to start a thread moaning about tax credits ect and then to reply saying 'oh I want to do the school run and talk to other mums' is what I don't get?
I really have no issues with benefits, I think when used in the right situations they really do help.
A really close friend of mine was claiming benefits when her husband had an affair and left her with 3 young children and no income. But not once did I hear her say I'm not going to look for work because I will miss chatting to the other mums when I do the school run.

JoySzasz · 07/07/2011 00:14

thesecond very good points,I would like to know too.

JoySzasz · 07/07/2011 00:17

fromtheother I guess OP was just being honest?

I can see that, for those (like you) who have chosen a different path it might grate.

I don't think she realized how that could come across?

Anyway, I am sure she will be back in the morning :)

janey68 · 07/07/2011 06:56

And therein lies the problem joy. The op has become so accustomed to this culture of relying on state benefits /credits ( call it what you will) that she sees it as a god given right, and is affronted at the idea that she might need to go to work.

Reading the op, what strikes me is the sheer naivety - the op is blaming 'the government' as though its some remote machine which just generates money. Look op, that money is earned by those of us who work. So when I (and many hundreds of thousands of other mums across the uk ) are dropping our kids off in an hours time at nursery or childminder, and then dashing off to a hard days work, we'll rest assured that not only are we struggling to pay our own rent/bills/food, but we're also paying to enable you to do the school run every day shall we? Hmm
Sorry - your sense of entitlement is no longer cutting it with the general public any more

IWillCountToThree · 07/07/2011 07:29

To say that working tax credits are not a benefit is false. If a childless single person/couple earns the same amount, they get less in their pocket. So it's definitely a benefit.

Not always. My Parents are self employed and get Working Tax credit, neither of their DC live at home any more.

DH has a job which should pay bucketloads. But because of the recession there are far too many skilled people vying for jobs so employers can get away with paying far less. Someone will be desperate enough to take the wage they're offering.

usualsuspect · 07/07/2011 07:31

People on low wages pay tax too ,or have you forgotten that?

yay! sense of entitlement appears

janey68 · 07/07/2011 07:36

You play bingo if you want usualsuspect- but yes, it is a massive sense of entitlement to think that you should be ENTITLED to £140 per week of govt funding to enable you to not work and do the school run. The op clearly thinks HER child and HER desire to be at the school gates at 9 am and 3 pm every day is far more important than any one elses children. That is a spectacular sense of entitlement!

rainbowinthesky · 07/07/2011 07:38

I'd love to do even one school run. Can't as got to work.

usualsuspect · 07/07/2011 07:43

Speak for yourself janey68

Don't assume all the general public feels like you

janey68 · 07/07/2011 07:44

Exactly rainbow. While the op is affronted that shes no longer getting £140 per week - yes, thats right £560 PER MONTH! to enable her NOT to work.
Yet apparently we're not allowed to suggest that she has a strange sense of entitlement!!

And she's still getting £200 per month according to her op. But thats not good enough. She might have to get a job. Aw diddums....

usualsuspect · 07/07/2011 07:46

She would still probably get tax credits towards her childcare costs if she went to work

Is that ok?

Dillydaydreaming · 07/07/2011 07:55

What about me Janey - I get a good amount to enable me to work part time. It's great actually..... well NOT really because my son is autistic. I have "a sense of entitlement too". My "sense of entitlement" says my son needs me more than my work does and that the DLA and extra taxc credit enable me to work less hours.

It isn't always clear cut and many families are struggling because oif the crap wages in this country, the increased cost of living and the removal of benefots they relied on. Still they can always get a job cant't they..... oh wait a minute.... there were not many jobs last time I checked. Still it's only chavs with loads of kids they can't afford struggling so pull the ladder up Jack and anchors away.... Hmm

VelveteenRabbit · 07/07/2011 08:05

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usualsuspect · 07/07/2011 08:11

They may earn £7 an hour ,but not many have full time contracts

oohjarWhatsit · 07/07/2011 08:23

blimey 140 a week! plus other benefits

no bloody wonder no sod wants to work anymore

janey68 · 07/07/2011 08:26

Ah right so now we're assuming that parents who work somehow magically have children who never have special needs, and don't really need their parents as much anyway.

Smashing Hmm

PrettyMeerkat · 07/07/2011 08:28

I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to take your children to school.

I feel like I am a terrible mum a lot of the time as I have really struggled since they have been born with getting used to my role as a mum. I am constantly trying to learn and improve and get over MH issues from 5 years ago.

The walk to school I feel is a very important time in my and my childrens bonding. If that was taken away I actually feel that a distance would develop between us. I am clinging on with my finger nails as it is and am desperately trying to create and sustain a closeness. Particularly with my oldest it is difficult and I am sure she would react very poorly to my not being there.

It's not a choice for me, I have to be there.

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