AIBU to wonder why any woman would identify herself as [2]

[garlicnutter]

... not a feminist?

Since I killed the old one.

Wow, is Marysue psychic?

I don't even know who the mods are on here, let alone how to message them

Don't Orm. Don't go there. It's like the dark seething insect-ridden heart of darkness

It was a bit like that....

I know what you mean, HRH, but it's irresistible. It's like being Nancy Drew.

They are very angry. Although mdowall was warming to us I think.
His limericks were very poor though.

James is just angry about his pathetic follicles and that no one liked Cemetary Junction. I thought it was quite good.

Mauriz was definitely torn. He liked you, he called you Paggers and said you were feisty

ohh, Pag definitely is feisty... I'm gutted I missed all of this the other day. I felt best to stay away at the time

Mary-Sue is a fan-fic term, look it up. FTW = For The Win. I was puzzled by the reference to Jamez earlier, but it clicked when someone asked if I was from Texas in another thread. The moderators = whoever you get to when you click 'report this post.'

Weather in London today, bit cloudy and stuffy where I am. A bit 'close' as a Texan probably wouldn't use the word.

Feisty

Actually using paggers was his scooby doo unveiling moment wasn't it?

It was indeed, silly old Mauriz. I saw him about again the other day, but he nips off sharpish when greeted. Shy.

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HRH, are you in London, too?

While there are some MRA trolls on here, saying all equalists are MRA is just stupid.

How many times does it have to be said that identifying more with the term equalist does not equal anti-feminist? Tbh till the last thread I had never heard of being an equalist, and only used the word for want of a better one. It turns out the better one is egalitarian.

Just because some MRA idiots also use the term equalist (in what appears to be a very strange way) doesn't mean that it's the same usage that most people would associate with the word.

As has been pointed out on here a few times, feminism is women's rights. We all agreed on that? Therefore the focus is on women's rights, rather than anything else (eg. men's rights). Still in agreement?

Equalist is a broader range of things, it includes feminism, it also includes wanting equal rights for disabled, different sexualities, even transgenders.

The reason there aren't (to my knowledge) equalist groups or boards on here is because it covers so many areas.

As for the comments earlier that equalists aren't fighting for anyone, I do not know where you are getting that information from.

I still haven't seen anyone say feminism is wrong or unneccesary, all I have seen is that for some of us it does not encompass enough (which is understandable) and in some cases people have been told by people who identify as feminist that they do not care about the areas in which men are treated badly as women have been treated worse for longer. Which I can totally understand the logic, but not agree with.

Now I'm one of those who has been called a misogynist and an anti-feminist in other threads (possibly not under this username) and I disagree that it's because I do not know enough. My views are not anti-women, they just aren't quite as extreme as some of the views I've disagreed with.

If people cannot be bothered to take into account other views, and want to discount those views off hand, then yes, of course they will say things like "misogynist", "mra", "rape apologist" and "anti-feminist", but you know what? It achieves sweet fuck all, because all it does it shows an inability to argue a point without resorting to buzz words and insults.

Dontcallmepeanut - "What the flippity fuck? Feminism isn't about surpassing men, but becoming equal. I'm a feminist, and a regular on the feminist boards. I've yet to come across one who says that our DS's don't matter, or one who minimises the importance of our DS's in society".

Have you not read this thread? That is the opinion of some of the feminists some of us have come across. I can't now find where I encountered as it was a while ago but it has been repeated on this thread (or the other one) and I am not the only one to have heard this.

If you read what I read you will also see that I said we need to look after the boys because if we don't it will lead to trouble in the future (or words to that effect). It is common sense surely?

Niecie, I haven't read this thread all the way through, no. BUT no true feminist imo would minimise the importance of males in our society. In fact, take a trip over to feminism/women's rights. There's a thread there saying how it hopes feminism can improve the future for our DS's.

HRH ok, was just wondering.

This thread has rather ebbed and flowed, ducked and dived and bobbed and weaved.

Isn't this exactly what people were talking about?

If you don't like what someone is saying - then don't engage

All this menz/MRA/jamez stuff - this is why people don't want to come on the feminism boards

AND THIS ISN'T IN THE FEMINISM BOARD!!!!!!

If someone has a different viewpoint, it doesn't mean they should be shouted down and belittled and patronised. You won't change their viewpoint by doing that. Ignore or discuss but please stop the name calling

Don'tCallMePeanut, can you read this thread please and tell me what you think of it?
I appreciate that there are several viewpoints from different feminists, and some were arguing for equality of response, but as the mother of a 16 year old boy, it made me very depressed.